*Official* Pro-Wrestling Thread II

[Spikey]

For the last ****ing time, the bloke IS over.

Hahaha. I think he might mean in terms of getting over with Vince, which is clearly the sticking point. Seems like Cena bolieves

 

[King Pietersen]

Hahaha. I think he might mean in terms of getting over with Vince, which is clearly the sticking point. Seems like Cena bolieves

Exactly. His in-ring performances are getting reactions from fans, but he's not over within the company. He's had pushes, but never a sustained one. Hopefully these couple of matches, the reactions they've been getting and the Cena speech will light a fire under Vince's ass and get him to give Cesaro a major push.

Actually, just listening to an old Austin podcast with Cena, and when Steve asked about potential future talents, one of the first guys Cena named was Cesaro, and they ended up having a 5 minute conversation about how awesome he is, and how much potential he has. Seems like John's been keen on Cesaro for a long time.

 

[duffer]

This is so good. New Day are gold. They're really running with the heel switch. Hope they get the belts back at Battleground.

Heh, Big E and Kofi are gun but Xavier is next level hilarious. Piss myself with his antics, he plays the sarcastic dickhead role so well.

 

[duffer]

Yeha, gun. But yet neither of them have a match on the next PPV because...reasons!

Would have loved Bo to have a series with Nevile on the undercard. Needs a push, I find him hilarious.

 

[sledger]

Exactly. His in-ring performances are getting reactions from fans, but he's not over within the company. He's had pushes, but never a sustained one. Hopefully these couple of matches, the reactions they've been getting and the Cena speech will light a fire under Vince's ass and get him to give Cesaro a major push.

I'm sorry but the suggestion that he's not over within the company is totally disigenuous. He might not have been pushed to the main event, but he has had plenty of high profile exposure. He might not be the darling of the powers that be, but you make it sound like they think he's absolutely ****house, which is manifestly untrue.

The guy just mainevented an episode of RAW (from Chicago, no less) against John Cena, during which he was pretty much on offence for the entire match ffs.

 

[duffer]

What do we think Cesaro's ceiling is? Buy or sell him as a future champion?

 

[Agent TBY]

He's a solid B+ player.

 

[harsh.ag]

Tbh, think he needs a change of name, and a backstory of some kind. Should work well then because he's a complete beast in the ring.

 

[OverratedSanity]

What do we think Cesaro's ceiling is? Buy or sell him as a future champion?

Upper mid card for sure and possible regular main eventer. I don't buy the "He's not a good talker" or the "his characters bland" rubbish. Sheamus is a multiple time wwe champion ffs. Cesaro needs good booking, that's pretty much it.

I don't see him as someone capable of holding the belt for long, like CM Punk or Cena though. A bit below that level.

 

[Spikey]

i mean, cant his character be this sweet baby face foreigner who is amazing in the ring and is a winner and also appeared in the wrestler

 

[Spikey]

the pwg event i watched last night was headlined by Cesaro and was this 35 minute technical fest which i enjoyed the **** out of btw. some of the love people have for technical wrestling can feel a bit hipster-ish but this was so cool.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Anyone remember when Cesaro broke up with his girlfriend in 5 languages?

Bring back 5 languages Cesaro.

 

[Spikey]

ban wwe from using languages other than english. how bad was the French Owens v French and also Chinese Cena thing the other week

 

[harsh.ag]

Upper mid card for sure and possible regular main eventer. I don't buy the "He's not a good talker" or the "his characters bland" rubbish. Sheamus is a multiple time wwe champion ffs. Cesaro needs good booking, that's pretty much it.

Nah dude, his character is definitely bland. Not saying he needs to do antics or wear weird costumes, but definitely needs some decent backstory and a good story line before the good bookings.

 

[Spikey]

dude's wearing a sleeve and maple leaf in tribute of his injured tag team partner. his character can just be he's a ****ing great guy and awesome wrestler to boot. bland sure but the ****ing face of company is cena. He's over with everyone as it is.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Nah dude, his character is definitely bland. Not saying he needs to do antics or wear weird costumes, but definitely needs some decent backstory and a good story line before the good bookings.

What character does Sheamus have? Roman Reigns? Ryback? PG-era Cena? Hell, Brock's character is basically that he's a badass who can wreck ****. That's it. No backstory. No complicated storyline.

Now I'm not saying Cesaro doesn't need to improve his promos. He does. But with so many bland characters already who've main evented multiple ppvs I feel it odd how Cesaro is being singled out. It's nonsense. Cesaro+strong booking=gold. And hell, if you want a gimmick, give him the 5 languages shtick, it worked.

 

[Spikey]

Doing a gibberish promo in german would def be an improvement over what he'd be told to say in english

 

[Athlai]

From the perspective of someone who hasn't watched in years and started again recently.

Sheamus is Irish and looks quite Celtic Warriory.
Reigns has the Shield backstory and as my missus says "is bae"
Ryback looks like a monster.
Cesaro... spins people around sometimes?

 

[Athlai]

What character does Sheamus have? Roman Reigns? Ryback? PG-era Cena? Hell, Brock's character is basically that he's a badass who can wreck ****. That's it. No backstory. No complicated storyline.

Now I'm not saying Cesaro doesn't need to improve his promos. He does. But with so many bland characters already who've main evented multiple ppvs I feel it odd how Cesaro is being singled out. It's nonsense. Cesaro+strong booking=gold. And hell, if you want a gimmick, give him the 5 languages shtick, it worked.

I think you're confusing backstory for some kind of actual established traditional story. Lesnar's narrative is pretty clear. He is the beast. He broke the streak. Here comes the Pain.

Cesaro just doesn't give any lasting impression IMO. I've probably watched a half dozen of his matches now and I don't really care about him at all. There are plenty of solid ring workers out there who are more interesting than him.

Just needs something more to his character to take him seriously. And I'm almost entirely certain, that something isn't going to be a clean title reign.

 

[harsh.ag]

From the perspective of someone who hasn't watched in years and started again recently.

Sheamus is Irish and looks quite Celtic Warriory.
Reigns has the Shield backstory and as my missus says "is bae"
Ryback looks like a monster.
Cesaro... spins people around sometimes?

Exactly. All the guys have a thing including Lesnar as mentioned below and Cena with his "thugonomics". I watch intermittently and have no ****ing clue what to make of Cesaro.

I think you're confusing backstory for some kind of actual established traditional story. Lesnar's narrative is pretty clear. He is the beast. He broke the streak. Here comes the Pain.

Cesaro just doesn't give any lasting impression IMO. I've probably watched a half dozen of his matches now and I don't really care about him at all. There are plenty of solid ring workers out there who are more interesting than him.

Just needs something more to his character to take him seriously. And I'm almost entirely certain, that something isn't going to be a clean title reign.

Yup.