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*Official* Pakistan in New Zealand

Silver Silva

International Vice-Captain
I thought Zak Foulkes was only going to play games 4&5 , or is it that he won't be available for the 4th & 5th T20?
 

_Ed_

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Anyone actually watching this
Recorded both the women's and the men's games, since the women's game started so early. Up to watching the men's game now, but I'm too far behind to say anything worthwhile.

(I realise that's no excuse for all the not-worthwhile things I say usually, but that's beside the point).
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Forgot this was on until a couple of hours in... and that's the whole match.

Absolutely ridiculous figures for Jamieson and Duffy.
 

SteveNZ

International Coach
Hard to get in behind a game that features two NZ openers who turned down national contrasts or showed little interest in them
 

jcas0167

International Regular
Hard to get in behind a game that features two NZ openers who turned down national contrasts or showed little interest in them
Unfortunately with the money in T20 comps now that's probably going to be hard to avoid. The Champions Trophy squad had Kane, Conway and Ferguson. I guess they could try the All Blacks approach regarding offshore players. It's less clear cut here as Seifert and Allen played in the Ford Trophy. At the other extreme you have the Tall Blacks who have in the past named Steven Adams in their squads and he then says he's unavailable.
 

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Unfortunately with the money in T20 comps now that's probably going to be hard to avoid. The Champions Trophy squad had Kane, Conway and Ferguson. I guess they could try the All Blacks approach regarding offshore players. It's less clear cut here as Seifert and Allen played in the Ford Trophy. At the other extreme you have the Tall Blacks who have in the past named Steven Adams in their squads and he then says he's unavailable.
I don't mind players missing T20Is for leagues, I guess because it's the format I care least for. Really T20Is should just be played in the 6 months leading up to a WC (which should be every 4 years) so players get used to the teams environment of that format. If you skip ODIs for T20Is I think your selection should be much harder to achieve and if you skip tests for a league you should be persona non grata imo.

Maybe make central contracts for tests and ODIs only and if you commit to that contract you have to be available for those formats no matter what.
 

RMBolton

U19 Cricketer
Hard to get in behind a game that features two NZ openers who turned down national contrasts or showed little interest in them
In fairness to them, Seifert was never getting a central contract (& is currently on a casual domestic contract), & also they & Neesham have committed to possibly being called out of their T20 leagues for next January's T20WC warmup tour in India, which was a rather lowkey detail in the announcement that's actually kind of a big deal, as standard policy is that being out of the country renders you unavailable.
 

SteveNZ

International Coach
Yeah, it's not a knock on Seifert as a person, he seems like he's matured.

Can anyone remember a game of international cricket that less people gave a **** about? As I say, I genuinely did not know it was on. I read the Herald and nothing in there, no hype over it, no talking points, zero cut-through. It's over in quick time, nothing particularly happens in it, on we roll to the next.
 

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Yeah, it's not a knock on Seifert as a person, he seems like he's matured.

Can anyone remember a game of international cricket that less people gave a **** about? As I say, I genuinely did not know it was on. I read the Herald and nothing in there, no hype over it, no talking points, zero cut-through. It's over in quick time, nothing particularly happens in it, on we roll to the next.
I knew it was on but I'm more interested in the ODI series that follows. Hoping Pakistan can up their game because I really enjoyed the tri-series matches + 1 CT game we played against the. Obviously a better team than those results suggest.
 

Skyliner

International Debutant
Yeah, it's not a knock on Seifert as a person, he seems like he's matured.

Can anyone remember a game of international cricket that less people gave a **** about? As I say, I genuinely did not know it was on. I read the Herald and nothing in there, no hype over it, no talking points, zero cut-through. It's over in quick time, nothing particularly happens in it, on we roll to the next.
A great crowd there though and the packed houses are set to continue. People in NZ just enjoy going to a BC's match these days it seems, no matter the format and no matter the make up of the side.
 

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