**Official** Pakistan in Australia Thread

[PAKMAN]

dont think it was a difficult chance ,he was just late to move even tho he had a clear view,

 

[James90]

He reacted quickly and moved just couldn't get himself in position and get his balance to dive

 

[Jnr.]

Why is Waqar Younis commentating for Channel 9? Couldn't they find Rameez? Or even Wasim, as much as I think he's a potty commentator, would've done. But Waqar?

They wanted Wasim, but he declined them.

 

[Son Of Coco]

I'd say the 250 he is referring to is the one Langer made against England during the last Ashes. I would rate this innings higher, because a) the attack is much better in this case, and b) Australia was in a much worse situation at 5 down for very little than they ever were in that match, where Australia dominated from the very start.

Plus, if you saw how Langer struggled against some good bowling in the morning session to be 22* off 80 odd at lunch, the 160 runs he added after that are so much more impressive.

I was using 250 against Bangladesh on a road as an extreme example (not as an exact reference to one of Langer's innings), but I agree with you entirely. The fact that 5 other top order batsmen were dismissed early indicates that it took a great effort to get through that stage of the game.

 

[Son Of Coco]

He would not have scored the runs but for it.

And it's far less quantifiable in soccer (or rugby, or anything else).

WC99, I think you may have been referring to - yes, hindsight suggests that single catch cost SA the World Cup. But we can't, of course, be certain - all we can be certain about is that Stephen Waugh wouldn't have been credited with playing far better than he actually played.
Lara, meanwhile, did well enough not to knock the bails off. So he nearly knocked them off - so what? Nearly is nothing.

If nearly is nothing then how about we rephrase yesterdays incident as "Langer was nearly caught behind"...

Luck is far less quantifiable in any other sport? How about golf?

I'm not sure how you can say that a player is credited with playing far better than they actually played after a chance? Scoring 120 after being dropped at 50 is surely an indication of an ability to regroup and concentrate extremely well under great pressure is it not?

 

[cricket player]

i think inzy made a big mistake by not having another wicket keeper for this tour.I think inzy is a good human being he did'nt wanted to put pressure on the young wicker keeper akamal by bringing on another wicket keeper.despite not having another wicket keeper you can see he is already under pressure and he is in a poor form with not even making runs above 20.

 

[Son Of Coco]

The point is - as Mark Taylor pointed-out - he moved later than he should have done and as a result missed what was actually a very simple chance.
A chance better wicketkeeping would have resulted in being taken.
I didn't say his innings should be totally disregarded because of it - he played extremely well for 167* - but it's a 167* he wouldn't have had the chance to score given normal circumstances.
Unlike his 250 against England which was a quite fantastic exhibition of how to score runs without getting out.

The ability levels of each player are part of the game though Richard. Saying 'if there was a better keeper there he would have taken it' is pointless........each team contains the players considered the best in that country (presumably) so if the man there at the moment drops it then it's a case of too bad, so sad. Everybody drops catches, everybody benefits from time to time, and life goes on.

 

[Mr Casson]

I remember seeing a breakdown of the two halves of Justin Langer's career yesterday (1993-1999 and 2001-2004 I think it was). Even though he averaged only 36 in that first part of his career, he made 9 centuries in those 48 innings. That's really not too bad as a century-to-innings ratio. It says that he made a lot of low scores back then as well, which shows that he's come a long way to where he is now as Australia's big-score poster.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Kasper gone, 5 for Shoaib. Chance for McGrath to be Langer's hero now.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

What a classic stroke there from McGrath. A late cut for four straight out of the under 10s.

 

[Slow Love™]

McGrath's hook just now might be the clumsiest I've ever seen. Plopped the ball in the air alongside the keeper, and then fell on his a$$, just missing the stumps on the way down.

Could have turned into a very nasty accident though...

 

[cricket player]

McGrath's hook just now might be the clumsiest I've ever seen. Plopped the ball in the air alongside the keeper, and then fell on his a$$, just missing the stumps on the way down.

Could have turned into a very nasty accident though...

any one has a link for this match please send me at qayyumi4@aol.com please sehwag or any other person thanx

sorry slow love for inconvinent

 

[Slow Love™]

Ian Chappell's currently eviscerating Inzy over his field placings for Langer, and I'm inclined to agree. It's the contemporary practice of spreading the field for the recognized batsman, and allowing the single, so that they can concentrate on getting the tailender out.

Langer is just picking off twos though. And Shoaib has very little field support to get Langer out in any way bar LBW, caught behind or bowled.

 

[Slow Love™]

sorry slow love for inconvinent

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[Slow Love™]

Langer's out, caught off a top edge by Younis. Innings finishes at 381.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Langer goes for 191. Disappointing that he didn't carry his bat or get 200, because he deserved both.

 

[GotSpin]

Well done langer . McGrath's hook shot, if you could call it that, was the worst one i have ever seen...

 

[Jnr.]

Langer's out, caught off a top edge by Younis. Innings finishes at 381.

Great innings comes to an end. Very well played.

And how funny was McGrath?

 

[GotSpin]

Great innings comes to an end. Very well played.

And how funny was McGrath?

Dont mock him, his an excellent batter that hasnt peformed in the earlier stages of his carear and is now blossoming at the later stages- by that i mean McGrath

 

[Jnr.]

Dont mock him, his an excellent batter that hasnt peformed in the earlier stages of his carear and is now blossoming at the later stages

As Chappelli said - he's a late bloomer.