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**Official** Pakistan and Sri Lanka in UAE

Xuhaib

International Coach
You said the same thing about Junaid, so I am also not holding my breath regarding your comment.
always happy if a Pakistani cricketer proves me wrong but from what I have seen from Talha he bowls to many 4 balls he's quick but he ain't express.I did think he had a lot of potential 2 years back but just like Sami he has stalled.
 

Z-Man

U19 Vice-Captain
Lets see hows things go but this is a terrible squad.
No Sadaf who is in his form of life. No Umar Akmal again in Tests. Abdur Razzaq still persisted with. Raza Hasan again ignored for t20. Sohail Tanvir still manages to make it to the side somehow. Shoaib Malik goes in instead of Akmal.

Grr.. I really want to slap that selector..
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
don't mind Usman Salahuddin and Sadaf not getting selected sometimes we throw in the young guys too early Sadaf is not a tearaway quick that we need to expose as early as possible while batsman should only be selected if they give you 2-3 consistent seasons. I will let them finish this season. However Fawad and Khalil are being harshly treated.
 
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Z-Man

U19 Vice-Captain
Theres a whole Punjabi group out for his head. I am sorry if you think I am generalizing but that is a harsh truth. They tell him to grow muscles, cant hit a six and all that which is absolutely rubbish.
Khurram Manzoor, Fawad Alam, Shahzeb Hasan were brought in by Afridi but were dropped straight after his departure as captain (I am in no way supporting Shahzeb Hasans inclusion)
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
Theres a whole Punjabi group out for his head. I am sorry if you think I am generalizing but that is a harsh truth. They tell him to grow muscles, cant hit a six and all that which is absolutely rubbish.
Khurram Manzoor, Fawad Alam, Shahzeb Hasan were brought in by Afridi but were dropped straight after his departure as captain (I am in no way supporting Shahzeb Hasans inclusion)
a lot of non Karachi players get victimized Nasir Jamshed, Yasir Arafat,Mohammad Khalil to name a few.Many Karachi players enjoyed a free ride Sami and Fiasal Iqbal comes to my mind immediatley. Don't think there is a regional bias whoever has a parchi gets the preferential treatment yo don't need to belong to any certain area to have a parchi just the best connections.
 

smash84

The Tiger King
a lot of non Karachi players get victimized Nasir Jamshed, Yasir Arafat,Mohammad Khalil to name a few.Many Karachi players enjoyed a free ride Sami and Fiasal Iqbal comes to my mind immediatley. Don't think there is a regional bias whoever has a parchi gets the preferential treatment yo don't need to belong to any certain area to have a parchi just the best connections.
quite agree with this
 

Z-Man

U19 Vice-Captain
a lot of non Karachi players get victimized Nasir Jamshed, Yasir Arafat,Mohammad Khalil to name a few.Many Karachi players enjoyed a free ride Sami and Fiasal Iqbal comes to my mind immediatley. Don't think there is a regional bias whoever has a parchi gets the preferential treatment yo don't need to belong to any certain area to have a parchi just the best connections.
Nasir Jamshed is the only deserving Candidate here who has been ignored but was given a chance. Afterwards he was given jail (I think) or caught while cheating in matric exams. Khalil and Yasir Arafat are crappy, tried and tested failures.

Sami came due to his pace and we all know the pakistani obsessiveness of pace so no surprised that he stayed in team for a long time. Remember he had potential, Imran called him the next malcom marshall for a reason, although he wasted his talent but thats another story.
Yasir Arafat? do I really need to mention?. That guy is only good at serving drinks.
Khalil? your just following the PP hype. :\
 
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Bouncer

State Regular
Theres a whole Punjabi group out for his head. I am sorry if you think I am generalizing but that is a harsh truth. They tell him to grow muscles, cant hit a six and all that which is absolutely rubbish.
Khurram Manzoor, Fawad Alam, Shahzeb Hasan were brought in by Afridi but were dropped straight after his departure as captain (I am in no way supporting Shahzeb Hasans inclusion)
Sorry but that is nothing but bunch of excuses.

Shahzeb with his technique should never be part of national squad. Fawad a good utility player but has very visible limitations against both good pace and average spin bowling.

Khurram, never looked like kind of player who would be a long term bet (did play one good inning in his career against AUS but in fact didnt set world on fire with his outings with SL,) and contrary to what you are stating was played in the team by YK and MY and not afridi.

So please do not bring this " whole Punjabi group " thingi....Its a shame when cricket followers resort to these excuses.
 

Bouncer

State Regular
Nasir Jamshed is the only deserving Candidate here who has been ignored but was given a chance.\

Is he?

Raza Hassan, Ahmed Shahzad, Sharjeel Khan, Umar Amin, Awais Zia, that keeper from rawalpindi, Lal Kumar.

I bet you have never heard these names before in your life?


Afterwards he was given jail (I think) or caught while cheating in matric exams. Khalil and Yasir Arafat are crappy, tried and tested failures.

Sami came due to his pace and we all know the pakistani obsessiveness of pace so no surprised that he stayed in team for a long time. Remember he had potential, Imran called him the next malcom marshall for a reason, although he wasted his talent but thats another story.
Yasir Arafat? do I really need to mention?. That guy is only good at serving drinks.
Khalil? your just following the PP hype. :\

Yasir araft's best years were ruined by Pakistani management's love of seniority which kept making them select Razaak after 2004 where he does produce at least one or two inning in a season (or lets say 25 games) where he gets Pak out of trouble by scoring 27 ball 50, But what he also does is in rest of the 24 games(where he gets to play because of that one or two prior innings), a part from not contributing enough with bat,
- leaks runs left and right and destroys any pressure that is getting build from bowling at other end
- 9 times out of ten ******es the ball (Usually a defensive push by batsman for a single) to the boundry.

Is getting all the above worth keeping him side for 20+ games after one/two good games?



I have believed and said it multiple times that Pak should have given more chances to Yasir specially since 2006, unfortunately now for last 18 or so months we are seeing another player who is getting the same treatment than Yasir got from seniority loving Pak management and captain, this guy is Hammad.
 
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Bouncer

State Regular
Talha is Sami mk II imo I am not holding my breath.
Naa Man...I wouldn't get so hopeless. I mean its a Pakistani fast bowler we are talking about, not someone's 100th ton so good things are bound to happen. The only name that can be said alongside Sir Sami is the great Agarkar.

Here is him 3 years ago....He has remodeled his action since and now doesnt seem to be leaning-back and kindaa breaking his rhythm in his new action.
Anwar Ali's batting - YouTube

PS: ignore the video title "Anwar Ali's Batting" I have provided the part where Talha bowls
 
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Z-Man

U19 Vice-Captain
Is he?

Raza Hassan, Ahmed Shahzad, Sharjeel Khan, Umar Amin, Awais Zia, that keeper from rawalpindi, Lal Kumar.

I bet you have never heard these names before in your life?





Yasir araft's best years were ruined by Pakistani management's love of seniority which kept making them select Razaak after 2004 where he does produce at least one or two inning in a season (or lets say 25 games) where he gets Pak out of trouble by scoring 27 ball 50, But what he also does is in rest of the 24 games(where he gets to play because of that one or two prior innings), a part from not contributing enough with bat,
- leaks runs left and right and destroys any pressure that is getting build from bowling at other end
- 9 times out of ten ******es the ball (Usually a defensive push by batsman for a single) to the boundry.

Is getting all the above worth keeping him side for 20+ games after one/two good games?



I have believed and said it multiple times that Pak should have given more chances to Yasir specially since 2006, unfortunately now for last 18 or so months we are seeing another player who is getting the same treatment than Yasir got from seniority loving Pak management and captain, this guy is Hammad.

1) Nasir Jamshed is a deserving candidate who has been ignored. I never compared him with the more deserving.

2) So do you really think Yasir Arafat could compete Abdur Razzaq of the mid 2000's? Interesting. Abdur Razzaq was more than a useful bowler at that time, a match-winner and had more fans than he has now. Yasir Arafat was given a consistent run with Inzi but always failed to impress.


3) You seem to be following Pakpassions hype too much. Calm down, they hype every single performer and consider him to be the next Viv or Wasim. Hammad Azam was a total flop in his early games [75-80 KM/H] and had been a poor performer through out the faysal bank t20 tournament (excluding the final where he was okayish) although I believe he should be in the squad.
Sharjeel Khan flopped in the tournament as well, Ahmed Shahzad was just banned recently for his rude behavior in the match (I think against Umpire), Awais Zia? Fine bring him in T20 if you really want, Hasan Raza? He needs a bit more time, its not wise always to bring a teenager to the team but yes he should be given a chance at T20. Umar Amin? Haven't got place, sorry. Kick Younis and Misbah before talking about the next classy tuk tuk.

Jamal anwar is the keeper your talking about. I know he performed good in the faysal bank t20 but that does not mean an automatic selection for him ahead of the candidates who have been waiting forever i.e Sarfaraz, Adnan.
Lal Kumar? Hehe. come on, I feel like arguing with a PP'er. He did not even perform in Faysal Bank T20, I know he has impressive stats but we have got better bowlers who need to be given a consistent run before they are judged.

So you see, I know about them too :). I followed Maldive Islands tournament as well as the whole domestic tournament.
I know what I am talking about and I have been through the PakPassion hype process as well. fortunately I understood that Forum before it took over my thoughts.
 
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Agent Nationaux

International Coach
Z-Man, Shahzaib is the worst batsman in international cricket I have ever seen. He has never performed, despite the chances he has been given and should never be allowed in the team ever again.
 

Z-Man

U19 Vice-Captain
Please quote where I mentioned his batting and his 'superb' performance in the domestic tournaments.
It seems people cant read :||

Shahzeb Hasan were brought in by Afridi but were dropped straight after his departure as captain (I am in no way supporting Shahzeb Hasans inclusion)
 
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