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***Official*** Pakistan and England in UAE

Who do you think will win?!

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Burgey

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So England won this last night? I admit I was too tired to sit up and watch. I basically just switched on and saw KP's lbw then headed off to bed. it seemed there was a fairly measured approach at the start from England. Was it tight bowling, cautious batting or a bit of both? I didn't see pakistan's innings at all. Did they go about it the same way?

It seems to be a bit of a trend in ODIs the last month or so. A few more measured starts in teh tri-series here as well.
 
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Pothas

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Commentators seem to be attributing it to the two new balls. Not sure I buy that myself, would put it down to the makeup of the two sides and the pitch rather than anything else.
 
Burgey

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Might be something in it, though if you're wanting to go bananas in the first half dozen overs, you're taking on a new ball either way, be there one or two. Think, as you say, it's more to do with conditions overall.
 
Xuhaib

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have been saying this for a while that odi side needs a revamp, good on England they have not let the test series loss get to them and have actually exposed a pretty mediocre Pakistan's odi side.
 
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Pothas

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Burgey said:
Might be something in it, though if you're wanting to go bananas in the first half dozen overs, you're taking on a new ball either way, be there one or two. Think, as you say, it's more to do with conditions overall.
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Yeah it is also pretty difficult to get off to a crazy start when you have PIetersen in his current guise and Imran Farhat as one of your openers.
 
salman85

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Umar Akmal needs to start batting up the order.Throw Farhat out,and make Umar open the innings.He usually comes in to bat when the top order has already been blown apart,and then expecting him to do wonders is slightly unfair on him.

The responsibility of throwing away his wicket a lot of times lies squarely on his shoulders,but making him bat up the order would do the team more good than his current position.The talent is there,and despite Umar's own carelessness,he's not being used properly by the management either.He isn't afraid to have a go at the bowlers,and his aggression would reap far greater rewards up the order than his current position.

Hafeez
Umar
Asad/Azhar
Younis
Misbah
Sarfaraz/Adnan
Afridi
Ajmal
Gul
Wahab/Junaid
Rehman

I don't agree with the notion that every one after Afridi is your run of the mill old fashioned tailender.Both Ajmal and Gul can bat,not as well as Broad and Swann perhaps,but they are hardly from the Courtney Walsh school of tailenders either.Even Wahab can whack a few around.

Also,the conern for me at this point in time is the 2015 world cup.Younis and Misbah need to make way sooner rather than later.Blood in some youngsters like Usman Salahuddin.He was taken on the West Indies West Indies tour,but he only got 2 games.He needs to be given another chance since he has tons of potential.

Asad and Azhar will form the heart of the our middle order for 2015,but the supporting acts need to be groomed soon.

Oh and for the record,Afridi needs to be given the ODI captaincy again.I think it's only a matter of time till that happens.
 
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Prince EWS

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salman85 said:
Umar Akmal needs to start batting up the order.Throw Farhat out,and make Umar open the innings.He usually comes in to bat when the top order has already been blown apart,and then expecting him to do wonders is slightly unfair on him.

The responsibility of throwing away his wicket a lot of times lies squarely on his shoulders,but making him bat up the order would do the team more good than his current position.The talent is there,and despite Umar's own carelessness,he's not being used properly by the management either.He isn't afraid to have a go at the bowlers,and his aggression would reap far greater rewards up the order than his current position.

Hafeez
Umar
Asad/Azhar
Younis
Misbah
Sarfaraz/Adnan
Afridi
Ajmal
Gul
Wahab/Junaid
Rehman

I don't agree with the notion that every one after Afridi is your run of the mill old fashioned tailender.Both Ajmal and Gul can bat,not as well as Broad and Swann perhaps,but they are hardly from the Courtney Walsh school of tailenders either.Even Wahab can whack a few around.

Also,the conern for me at this point in time is the 2015 world cup.Younis and Misbah need to make way sooner rather than later.Blood in some youngsters like Usman Salahuddin.He was taken on the West Indies West Indies tour,but he only got 2 games.He needs to be given another chance since he has tons of potential.

Asad and Azhar will form the heart of the our middle order for 2015,but the supporting acts need to be groomed soon.

Oh and for the record,Afridi needs to be given the ODI captaincy again.I think it's only a matter of time till that happens.
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That team would probably average about 215 when batting first.
 
BoyBrumby

BoyBrumby

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Surely with Hafeez in the side having four bowlers, none of whom should really be anywhere above #10, is unnecessary? Dump Rehman (or Cheema if one's comfortable with just the one seamer) for a proper batsman.
 
Prince EWS

Prince EWS

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BoyBrumby said:
Surely with Hafeez in the side having four bowlers, none of whom should really be anywhere above #10, is unnecessary? Dump Rehman (or Cheema if one's comfortable with just the one seamer) for a proper batsman.
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Yep, completely agree. Have been saying this for ages. With Afridi and Hafeez in the side, there's absolutely no reason at all to have a specialist bowler at 8. It's madness.
 
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