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*** Official *** Pakistan all format tour of South Africa 10 December to 7 January

Dendarii

International Debutant
If Corbin Bosch wasn't allowed to pile up in 1st innings, Pak would have easily won by now.
You don't know that for certain. If Bosch goes out earlier then the match state changes. You can't assume everything else would have played out in exactly the same way as it has.
 

Bahseph

International Debutant
When Jansen is showing better application than Beddingham, Verryenne and Bosch, what does it say? You can sugar coat facts as much as you like.
Bosch is in his debut Test. Jansen has been around for years and has batted 7 across formats.
 

King Kane

International Regular
I'm still backing SA while Jansen is still there, he is a clutch player, future SA captain, if he goes early after lunch I'm backing Pakistan, simple as that.''
 

Dendarii

International Debutant
When Jansen is showing better application than Beddingham, Verryenne and Bosch, what does it say?
It says that Jansen is playing better today than those others. It's a massive leap to go from that to declaring this side worse than any other side South Africa has put out over its entire history (which is more than 100 years).
 

Bahseph

International Debutant
Calling this SA side the worst ever is also taking away from how great Abbas has been. Better batsman would have been under pressure today than what SA have.
 

Kirkut

International Regular
It says that Jansen is playing better today than those others. It's a massive leap to go from that to declaring this side worse than any other side South Africa has put out over its entire history (which is more than 100 years).
When was the last time you saw SA batting this fragile? You can certainly attribute this collapse to some very good bowling from Khurram and Abbas, but it doesn't change the fact that it's their weakest batting lineup ever.
 

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