**Official** New Zealand v Australia

[Fiery]

Its the NZ team selected on who is available and thats the best team NZ could muster so its full strength, if Oram,Styris and Bond could have improved the team then they would have been selected.

That's just a ridiculous loaded argument

 

[Retox]

So as you can see by selecting Bond, Styris or Oram would not have improved the team so it was at full strength.

Jesus what do you have in your head? Nothing? If they were FIT... Get that FIT? I think NZ would be able to beat Australia (Ala Aussie series/VB series) But there not so the fans move on.

 

[Retox]

That's just a ridiculous loaded argument

I think he thinks if he twists everyones words to mean what he wants them to mean he is right

 

[Scallywag]

What a stupid loaded argument. If they weren't injured then they would have been selected.

NZ picked the best team available from the players they have. By saying Bond is injured so the NZ team is not at full strength is a stupid argument, its Bond that is not at full strength, Australia are playing NZ not Bond. There will allways be players who are injured in all teams and their country goes on playing regardless because thats what its about countries putting their best team up against whoever they are playing.

If McGrath is injured and not available then you dont say Australia is not at full strength because Australia will still field its best 11 players.

 

[Fiery]

NZ picked the best team available from the players they have. By saying Bond is injured so the NZ team is not at full strength is a stupid argument, its Bond that is not at full strength, Australia are playing NZ not Bond. There will allways be players who are injured in all teams and their country goes on playing regardless because thats what its about countries putting their best team up against whoever they are playing.

If McGrath is injured and not available then you dont say Australia is not at full strength because Australia will still field its best 11 players.

You might not, but everyone else does

 

[Retox]

If McGrath is injured and not available then you dont say Australia is not at full strength because Australia will still field its best 11 players.

Bond is our best quick bowler.... Thus when is he is out our team is not at full strength.

 

[howardj]

But Australia has to figure out your not always gonna be this good. After the next WC when I see all your "old pensioners" retire I don't think Australia has the youth talent (from what I have seen in FC) To be the top 4 Test or ODI sides in the world IMO.

I wouldn't disagree with that. There are very few players at FC level in Australia - aged under 23 - that you just know are going to have decent international careers. Who is there besides Clarke? Identified talents such as Cosgrove and Sean Marsh have languished in the FC ranks without stringing good performances together.

By contrast, back at the start of 1993 for example, there was Martyn, Hayden, Langer, Slater, McGrath, Warne and Ponting, who most people identified as genuine talents or had made a huge impact at FC level. All were under 23 and all debuted for Australia within two to three years of each other.

 

[Scallywag]

You might not, but everyone else does

Well i'm glad you speak for everyone else. But the fact remains that Bond is not available to play for NZ and the 11 that walk out onto the field represent the best NZ has to offer.

 

[Retox]

Well i'm glad you speak for everyone else. But the fact remains that Bond is not available to play for NZ and the 11 that walk out onto the field represent the best NZ has to offer.

No its the best team the selectors think... The selectors are not right 100% the time.

 

[Scallywag]

Bond is our best quick bowler.... Thus when is he is out our team is not at full strength.

Bond was your best quick bowler if he is your best bowler then he should have been picked.

 

[MoxPearl]

NZ picked the best team available from the players they have.

no

 

[Blaze]

What's seldom acknowledged is that NZ only have the population of Sydney to choose from. Given that, it's not a bad team that they manage to put out.

And cricket is not our national game like Aus

 

[Blaze]

Bond was your best quick bowler if he is your best bowler then he should have been picked.

I get what you are trying to say but the fact of the matter is that NZ is not at its maximum possible strength.

 

[Scallywag]

No its the best team the selectors think... The selectors are not right 100% the time.

I think you will find that the selectors are right 100% of the time, unless you can point out when the 11 they have picked arent the 11 that played.

 

[Scallywag]

I get what you are trying to say but the fact of the matter is that NZ is not at its maximum possible strength.

What team is ever at its maximun possible strength given form, injuries and other variables. You cant lay the blame on anything other than what you do on the field.

 

[Scallywag]

And cricket is not our national game like Aus

Australias national game is Aussie rules followed by rugby, cricket is not as popular in Australia as many people think it is. More people in Australia play soccer than cricket.

 

[Fiery]

Australias national game is Aussie rules followed by rugby, cricket is not as popular in Australia as many people think it is. More people in Australia play soccer than cricket.

What a crock. Cricket is your national game. 3rd behind rugby? You're kidding. Rugby is played in ACT, NSW and Queensland. Rules is played primarily in Victoria and Sth Australia. Cricket is played right throughout Australia and is accepted worldwide and by Australians themselves as the national game. The fact that more people play soccer doesn't mean anything. More people play bowls in NZ but it's not our national game, rugby is. Some of your arguments are a bit dumb Scallywag.

 

[Scallywag]

What a crock. Cricket is your national game. 3rd behind rugby? You're kidding. Rugby is played to ACT, NSW and Queensland. Rules is played primarily in Victoria and Sth Australia. Cricket is played right throughout Australia and is accepted worldwide and by Australians themselves the national game. The fact that more people play soccer doesn't mean anything. More people play bowls in NZ but it's not our national game. Rugby is. Some of your arguments are a bit dumb Scallywag.

OK Fiery I'll just take your word for it.

 

[Blaze]

OK Fiery I'll just take your word for it.

Whatever way you look at it you have loads more playing resources than we do..

 

[Retox]

I think you will find that the selectors are right 100% of the time, unless you can point out when the 11 they have picked arent the 11 that played.

I not gonna debate this with someone who all they do is twist my words.