Somerset
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Adam Gilchrist, no doubt about it.Right arm fast said:whos your pick for man of the series?
Adam Gilchrist, no doubt about it.Right arm fast said:whos your pick for man of the series?
For me Vettori hasn't bowled that when this series, outside the first test when he got a 5fer. Franklin for me has been the pick of their bowler, his improved every game.FaaipDeOiad said:He bowls a very tight line. I actually think he's been a bit underused in this series. He and Vettori are the only bowlers who looked dangerous every time they had the ball.
To be fair, Franklin and Martin looked dangerous at times but lacked consistency - O'Brien and Wiseman were also difficult to get away in patches. Vettori and Astle were the most consistent and therefore most dangerous, and if I was Fleming I would've used Astle more too.FaaipDeOiad said:He bowls a very tight line. I actually think he's been a bit underused in this series. He and Vettori are the only bowlers who looked dangerous every time they had the ball.
Yeah, all the bowlers looked dangerous at times, except perhaps O'Brien who was at best accurate but never menacing. However when Vettori and Astle were bowling I could always see a wicket falling, whereas Martin and Franklin were good sometimes and sometimes looked completely harmless.Somerset said:To be fair, Franklin and Martin looked dangerous at times but lacked consistency - O'Brien and Wiseman were also difficult to get away in patches. Vettori and Astle were the most consistent and therefore most dangerous, and if I was Fleming I would've used Astle more too.
Unless Vettori bowls us to victory........FaaipDeOiad said:Gilchrist all the way. MotM in the first two matches, and pretty good here too.
Ponting for MotM here probably, just ahead of McGrath.
Right arm fast said:whos your pick for man of the series?
Vettori hasn't been that dangerous, accurate maybe but not dangerous. He only taken 3 wickets in the series outside that 5-fer. If u take out the 5-106 then his average for the series is around 100, on par with O'Brien and MartinFaaipDeOiad said:Yeah, all the bowlers looked dangerous at times, except perhaps O'Brien who was at best accurate but never menacing. However when Vettori and Astle were bowling I could always see a wicket falling, whereas Martin and Franklin were good sometimes and sometimes looked completely harmless.
I disagree. He's had a very poor third test, but in the second test he was very dangerous as well, and I think he was the best New Zealand bowler in that match as well, just ahead of Martin. He didn't get the wickets of course, but he bowled very well. In the third test Franklin and Wiseman have been the best New Zealanders with the ball.chaminda_00 said:Vettori hasn't been that dangerous, acuurate maybe but not dangerous. He only taken 3 wickets in the series outside that 5-fer. If u take out the 5-106 then his average for the series is around 100, on par with O'Brien and Martin
But to be very dangerous u have to take wickets, this has been the story for most of his career. His always looks like taking a bag of wickets but never really does, i thought that 5-fer in the 1st Test was a turning point in his career, but it wasn't. Batsmen around the world always worried about Vettori cus he has the potential to ripe through a batting line but never does. Is it because he bowls to defence at times or cus he has no support. I'm not sure about the second argument cus i haven't done research to see if he bowled better with Bond in the side. But their have been many bowlers in world cricket that have next to no support but they are still successful, ie Steak and Hadlee come to mind. All in all if ur a spin bowler and can't consisently take wickets under 35, either ur too defence or ur not a world beater.FaaipDeOiad said:I disagree. He's had a very poor third test, but in the second test he was very dangerous as well, and I think he was the best New Zealand bowler in that match as well, just ahead of Martin. He didn't get the wickets of course, but he bowled very well. In the third test Franklin and Wiseman have been the best New Zealanders with the ball.
Well all spin bowlers have simliar work load to him, and also one of the reason why he is a better one day bowler then Test is cus he seem to be too defence. Look how much better Giles is bowling since he started attacking more when bowling in Test Cricket.psxpro said:Vettori's a better one day bowler.
I think hes a pretty good test bowler as well, for a spinner in test hes done very well, the thing is he has a back problem and struggles with the workload.
The way Ponting is starting to smash them they will do it easy. He is being brutal at the moment. Another 6 as I type/FaaipDeOiad said:It's almost night there now! I wonder if they can win by stumps even with Fleming's stalling tactics.
50 for Ponting.