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**Official** New Zealand v Australia

meatspx

U19 Cricketer
benchmark00 said:
I cant believe that dude claimed that catch, it clearly hit the ground then his hand landed on it!
That's what happened exactly when Cairns was caught out in the deep in one of the ODIs.

In any case, I think it wasn't out. Cumming didn't claim the catch, he said " I think I caught it".
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
meatspx said:
In any case, I think it wasn't out. Cumming didn't claim the catch, he said " I think I caught it".
Are you kidding? He took it, stood up, nodded at Hayden a couple of times, paused, then nodded again and turned to celebrate with his teammates. That's claiming the catch, regardless of what words he said in the process.
 

shaka

International Regular
meatspx said:
That's what happened exactly when Cairns was caught out in the deep in one of the ODIs.

In any case, I think it wasn't out. Cumming didn't claim the catch, he said " I think I caught it".
He looked like it was in control and that is all that is required, Katich claimed a catch when the ball clear had touched the grass and given out, so where is the fairness?
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
FaaipDeOiad said:
Spectacular performance by McGrath today, another trademark effort on a pitch with nothing in it. I've never seen him use reverse swing that well before, either.
EXACTLY! That ball to remove Astle was brilliant.

I wonder what Richard says to that. Not a wicket taking ball on a flat pich hey? :happy:

Then again we'll never know as he'll probably ignore this thread.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
shaka said:
He looked like it was in control and that is all that is required, Katich claimed a catch when the ball clear had touched the grass and given out, so where is the fairness?
No, he has to be CLEARLY in control of the ball. When the third umpire is called he has to be 100% certain that it is out or he gives it not out, and in this case he clearly wasn't certain. If the Katich case wasn't referred to the third umpire, it's a different situation.
 

meatspx

U19 Cricketer
FaaipDeOiad said:
Are you kidding? He took it, stood up, nodded at Hayden a couple of times, paused, then nodded again and turned to celebrate with his teammates. That's claiming the catch, regardless of what words he said in the process.
A replay was shown a few minutes after the decision was mad. Cumming quite clearly mouthed the words "I think I caught it", then he celebrated. He was indeed confident, but that's what happened.
 

benchmark00

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Are you guys talking about the Hussey incident in the ODI with Cairns? or was there a Katich one in this match? just a clarification...
 

anzac

International Debutant
just a quick view...........

well done H Marshall
best innings from Astle at Test level since his return
brilliant exhibition of bowling by McGrath

not enough runs on the board
the batting fell away after Marshall's departure - no partnerships to speak of (IMO Astle showed responsibility but does not have the same ability to put together partnerships)

the close calls v AUS could have gone either way, and probably would have gone against the batsman had AUS been in the field. Please note that this is NOT the result of any bias for AUS, but rather the result of the unintentional bias towards the top performers in any sport in a 50-50 situation. Eg the known abilities & success of top class performers (bowlers & fieldsmen) almost creates an assumption that it was probably out - much like how Slater was referring to playing Warne the reputation as much as Warne the bowler...........
 

Somerset

Cricketer Of The Year
FaaipDeOiad said:
Very nice bowling from Franklin. Langer was looking really dangerous.
Important wicket for New Zealand, good reward for Franklin too.

Ian O'Brien on now, this should be interesting considering I can't remember seeing him bowl before! Let's hope it'll be a good first impression. :)
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Somerset said:
Important wicket for New Zealand, good reward for Franklin too.

Ian O'Brien on now, this should be interesting considering I can't remember seeing him bowl before! Let's hope it'll be a good first impression. :)
First time he's played at this ground.
 

Somerset

Cricketer Of The Year
Mister Wright said:
First time he's played at this ground.
Lol, I'm not sure if I wanted to hear that unique statistic...

Anyway, a tidy over from the debutant, just one from it and he looks to be a decent bowler. Hopefully he'll continue with that accuracy for the remainder of the day.
 

Top_Cat

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Re: McGrath and reverse swing, if today is the best you've seen him use reverse swing, well he must have been damn-near unplayable. I've seen McGrath swing the ball reverse for many years now (I still remember his ball in the mid-90's when he got Sohail on 99 from around the wicket).

On McGrath; once again proving the point I made a year ago on this forum that after he came back from injury, McGrath was going to be a better bowler. What a champion, the ultimate big match and clutch performer.
 

Somerset

Cricketer Of The Year
O'Brien takes his first test wicket by dismissing Matthew Hayden!!! Well done Ian O'Brien!! Australia 75/2 now.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
Top_Cat said:
Re: McGrath and reverse swing, if today is the best you've seen him use reverse swing, well he must have been damn-near unplayable.
It's not that I've not seen him reverse swing the ball before, but I've never seen him consistently find unplayable reverse swing for a whole session before. He's never, in my experience, been the kind of reverse swing bowler who can keep it up consistently from the time the ball starts to reverse and decimate batting lineups in the process. I'm happy to admit that I haven't seen every delivery he's ever bowled of anything, but I've never thought of him much as a specialist reverse swing bowler.

Top_Cat said:
On McGrath; once again proving the point I made a year ago on this forum that after he came back from injury, McGrath was going to be a better bowler. What a champion, the ultimate big match and clutch performer.
Agreed completely. He's bowling as well now as I've ever seen him, and probably on par with his form in 2000/01 now.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
New Zealand are doing a pretty good job with the ball without a lot of help from the pitch at the moment, but I have a bit of an ominous feeling about tomorrow morning. If Ponting and Martyn can make stumps they might tear apart this bowling lineup on the third day.
 

Somerset

Cricketer Of The Year
FaaipDeOiad said:
New Zealand are doing a pretty good job with the ball without a lot of help from the pitch at the moment, but I have a bit of an ominous feeling about tomorrow morning. If Ponting and Martyn can make stumps they might tear apart this bowling lineup on the third day.
Hmmm...I tend to agree, they've done it before and have the potential to do it again. Ponting was extremely lucky to survive a run out opportunity though while Vettori seems to be troubling him at times so we've still been creating chances.
 

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