Van Zyl is absolutely garbage. Refuse to believe there isn't a better batsmen in SA than him.
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***Official*** New Zealand tour of Zimbabwe and South Africa 2016
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StephenZA
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Biggest issue will be when AB comes back... obvious is dropping Duminy.... but that really turns SA into a pure 4 man attack unless Elgar starts doing some lifting.
Shady Slim
International Coach
fair call though duminy still has a feasible argument to be there so he's not a massive out of the blue selection
my problem with quotas is they can only harm the team or do nothing new, because we have moved past not picking players because they're black, so all they do is either lead to players being picked who shouldn't be there, or leads to the players of colour being picked when they would still get picked anyway so they're inconsequential
StephenZA
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van Zyl pretty good actually... had a real tough intro to Test cricket having to open (not normal position) with a tour in subcontinent. But they are some real good youngsters that may leap frog him soon.
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I think van Zyl would've done a lot better against England if he hadn't been thrown into the deep end against Ashwin and Jadeja. His confidence looked shot after the India tour. I think his footwork, especially against spin needs a hell of a lot of work, but he's still obviously talented imo. Some time away from the team not necessarily the worst thing for him.
Dreadful technique. Doesn't really matter that he is opening, if you square yourself up that often in Test matches you are going to do nothing.
Marius
International Debutant
Perhaps there is, but he's a better call than Duminy right now. Also averaged 72 in the four recent 'Tests' he played for South Africa A.
StephenZA
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His technique is not that bad.... he looked terrible in the tests against England because his confidence was shot after India... I can understand you opinion from what you saw of him.... but having watched him domestically he is a much better player than you saw against England.
Duminy needs to bowl to be in the side, I agree. Van Zyl reminds me of an Adam Lyth type. Good timer of the ball, fine for good FC cricket standard but technique not up to the biggest level. People talk about players succeeding with bad techniques, and it is true they can, however there are certain basic that must be corrected in order to succeed. And twisting yourself into a S shape any time the ball slightly moves around off stump is something that must be corrected.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
God I love Steyn's crazy eyes
Marius
International Debutant
Duminy's bowling is also rubbish at the moment, so if we're picking No.5s would much rather go for Van Zyl right now.
RossTaylorsBox
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Oh cool this starts today.
Marius
International Debutant
Reminds me of my ex-girlfriend when she was angry.
SeamUp
International Coach
Last chance saloon for JP Duminy and there will be not many more disappointed with his career than me. Really thought the world of him when I first saw him at 19/20. Just been a frustrating test career mainly. Which should have been his main format. Almost similar to Jacques Rudolph.
Stiaan van Zyl has scored lots of FC runs and when our domestic system was much stronger as well. Also lots of SA 'A' runs. I would probably argue if he made a 100 it would be the best 100 to watch from a South African batsman on aesthetics but he too does need to take his chance when he gets it. His technique does leave a lot to be desired with that braced front leg being an issue but he has wonderful hands through the ball so if he can get comfortable at the highest level he could be a success.
Stiaan van Zyl has scored lots of FC runs and when our domestic system was much stronger as well. Also lots of SA 'A' runs. I would probably argue if he made a 100 it would be the best 100 to watch from a South African batsman on aesthetics but he too does need to take his chance when he gets it. His technique does leave a lot to be desired with that braced front leg being an issue but he has wonderful hands through the ball so if he can get comfortable at the highest level he could be a success.
StephenZA
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110% agreed on Duminy, terrible waste of talent... van Zyl deserves another shot... but if he does not show anything I so want Hamza in the squad...
Marius
International Debutant
Calm down, let him play some franchise stuff first.
StephenZA
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Oh agree he needs some first class stuff... but really think he is a wonderful talent.
