*Official* New Zealand tour of UAE and England 2023

[SteveNZ]

Wasn't there a BS tour of the USA around 2010 or so against the Windies with very low scores, too?

The only T20 I sorta remember with any lasting fondness was I reckon at the Cane Tin in 2018 v England. I feel like we lost, just, and Kane played an insane innings of 90 odd on a pitch where no one else could buy a run.

After Googling it, turns out the game I meant was an ODI, and Kane made 110. Potentially got it confused with a week later when he made 72 at the same ground after Doull (and me) said he wasn't cut out for T20s

NZ vs ENG Cricket Scorecard, 3rd ODI at Wellington, March 03, 2018

Get cricket scorecard of 3rd ODI, NZ vs ENG, England in Australia and New Zealand 2017/18 at Westpac Stadium, Wellington dated March 03, 2018.

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[SteveNZ]

I've truly lost it. The series in the US was against Sri Lanka.

Bring on the ODIs.

 

[_Ed_]

Haha yeah I genuinely like T20s on horrible wickets. Probably because they're played more like early 2000s ODIs, which I also genuinely liked.

Yeah, exactly this. I really enjoyed a lot of the 2016 T20 World Cup for the same reason - lots of fun low-scoring games.

Obviously there was NZ's first game, where we got 120-odd and then spun India out for about 80, but I remember really enjoying all of these:

AUS vs NZ Cricket Scorecard, 17th Match, Super 10 Group 2 at Dharamsala, March 18, 2016

Live Cricket Scoreboard: Get Australia vs New Zealand 17th Match, Super 10 Group 2, cricket scorecard, World T20 2015/16 dated March 18, 2016.

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SA vs WI Cricket Scorecard, 27th Match, Super 10 Group 1 at Nagpur, March 25, 2016

Live Cricket Scoreboard: Get South Africa vs West Indies 27th Match, Super 10 Group 1, cricket scorecard, World T20 2015/16 dated March 25, 2016.

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AFG vs WI Cricket Scorecard, 30th Match, Super 10 Group 1 at Nagpur, March 27, 2016

Live Cricket Scoreboard: Get Afghanistan vs West Indies 30th Match, Super 10 Group 1, cricket scorecard, World T20 2015/16 dated March 27, 2016.

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[morgieb]

There's something very charming about Peter Nevill playing and batting 10. Like a return to the 1920's or something, except it was only 7 years ago.

 

[Prince EWS]

There's something very charming about Peter Nevill playing and batting 10. Like a return to the 1920's or something, except it was only 7 years ago.

7* (2)

Should've been up the order.

 

[RMBolton]

That Aussie team was very much a second XI aswell tbf.

Ah, yeah, Finchy's BBL All-Stars.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

It has to factor into administrative thinking that you can't sell a product long term that is unmemorable and builds no nostalgia or mystique.

Have you listened to upper-level managers speak? They're just keeping the trains running while they collect their pisstake salaries. There's nothing which incentivizes long-term vision.

 

[Prince EWS]

Congratulations to England on retaining the trophy.

 

[Prince EWS]

The previous series being 3-2 with England winning the last game in a SuperOver makes that even better

 

[SteveNZ]

Have you listened to upper-level managers speak? They're just keeping the trains running while they collect their pisstake salaries. There's nothing which incentivizes long-term vision.

Unfortunately I have, it's one of my great bugbears in life.

There is no excuse, however, in a non-profit like NZC who have obligations to stakeholders not shareholders.

I agree with you mostly...although I would say the thing that incentivizes long-term vision is authentic love of the game and the willingness/desire to serve the game over a longer period of time. Yes, you're right - there's nothing extrinsically that does that, particularly. But intrinsically, there is no reason the right person can't balance the here and now + running a sustainable product for 2023 and thereabouts, plus thinking 'where will this game be in 40-50 years when whole generations are gone? Where do we want it?' It can still inform decisions.

 

[SteveNZ]

Had no idea the first ODI was tonight. This, All Blacks, Warriors, other World Cup rugby games...looming as a no sleep until Monday weekend

Also see Young has been confirmed to open ahead of Allen. Good call

 

[Neil Young]

Had no idea the first ODI was tonight. This, All Blacks, Warriors, other World Cup rugby games...looming as a no sleep until Monday weekend

Also see Young has been confirmed to open ahead of Allen. Good call

That is good news. Hope he does well and nails the spot for the WC. Then KW can replace Nicholls in the middle order.

 

[mackembhoy]

NZ win toss and bowl. Buttler said he'd have batted anyway

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1700101901461631022

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1700102568892883170

 

[CarlsbergXpress]

Good opportunity for Brook to push his case for inclusion in the WC side if he can put on a good showing here.

 

[GIMH]

Go on Harry

 

[ataraxia]

Brook to go berserk.

 

[TheBrand]

No Boult seems weird after the hullabaloo with him coming back into the mix.

Don't hate Will Young opening, but I definitely do not like Nicholls at 3. Would much rather Allen, Conway, Young instead.

 

[trundler]

No Boult seems weird after the hullabaloo with him coming back into the mix.

Don't hate Will Young opening, but I definitely do not like Nicholls at 3. Would much rather Allen, Conway, Young instead.

Let's not get carried away. Besides, KW is supposed to be back anyway.

Mitchell did well at 3 in Pakistan so why not him?

 

[ataraxia]

Let's not get carried away. Besides, KW is supposed to be back anyway.

Mitchell did well at 3 in Pakistan so why not him?

We're just scared that Young opening gives justification to play Nicholls at #3 if Kane isn't ready to return. Which would be awful.

 

[TheBrand]

Yeah I'd rather Mitchell at 3 if Kane's not gonna be there. This is a very weird XI tbh.