**Official** New Zealand in West Indies

[Neil Pickup]

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Not a no-ball

I think I am schizophrenic as I both agree with you (when the front foot first contacts the ground there is definitely half a millimetre of heel behind the line), and think it's complete bull**** that that's a legal delivery as the foot very clearly does not land behind the line.

The wording is that "the bowler’s front foot must land with some part of the foot, whether grounded or raised behind the popping crease". I know that if the foot lands behind and then slides forward, the delivery is legit... but it's more than possible to argue that in this instance that the foot did not land behind the line. Is there some clarification that it is indeed "first contact"?

 

[Meridio]

**** it. How did we lose this? 6 (18) from Oram probably the crucial innings.

 

[BackFootPunch]

C'mon Timmeh

 

[Flem274*]

Boult to pretend this lot are Philander and go nuts.

Didn't we concede a crazy amount of extras? We'll probably lose by the amount of extras we conceded.

 

[thierry henry]

**** it. How did we lose this? 6 (18) from Oram probably the crucial innings.

No-one, not even Ross, could play Narine

 

[BoyBrumby]

It's measured from when his foot makes first contact with the ground, when it did the back of his foot was in line with the very back of the line or a fraction behind. Maybe y'all need to buy better TVs or something

The line belongs to the umpires, as lazy commentators never tire of reminding us.

Couldn't see anything behind it on my 26" screen.

Anyway, massive jib from NZ here.

 

[thierry henry]

The wording is that "the bowler’s front foot must land with some part of the foot, whether grounded or raised behind the popping crease".

Seems pretty clear to me. The foot "lands" when it touches the ground.

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

ghey

 

[thierry henry]

The line belongs to the umpires, as lazy commentators never tire of reminding us.

Couldn't see anything behind it on my 26" screen.

Anyway, massive jib from NZ here.

If the back of the foot appears to be almost exactly in line with the line then there's no way you can confidently say there's nothing behind the line. That's in "too close to call" territory.

As Pickup says, there was a fraction of shoe slightly behind the line anyway.

 

[Furball]

That was pathetic from Southee.

 

[thierry henry]

Needed 50 off 7 overs, got 25 off 6.3. Surely some of the most dire death batting ever.

 

[Howsie]

Jesus, choke job or what.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Fitting end.

What can you say? Credit to the Windies bowlers, I suppose, but ugly collapse with the tape in sight from NZ.

 

[Neil Pickup]

If the back of the foot appears to be almost exactly in line with the line then there's no way you can confidently say there's nothing behind the line. That's in "too close to call" territory.

As Pickup says, there was a fraction of shoe slightly behind the line anyway.

Yeah, a bit of googling convinces me that it's definitely first contact, and therefore that was a legit delivery.

Anybody who couldn't see the heel behind the line needs to invest in HD.

 

[BeeGee]

Congrats to the WI on the series victory.

 

[Meridio]

Just so dire. WI should never have got 264 after that start either.

****ing hell.

 

[thierry henry]

Yeah, a bit of googling convinces me that it's definitely first contact, and therefore that was a legit delivery.

Anybody who couldn't see the heel behind the line needs to invest in HD.

Just to throw a little extra controversy into the mix, it appeared that the bit of shoe behind the line had actually come loose from the sole and was hanging out behind the shoe.

 

[BeeGee]

**** it. How did we lose this? 6 (18) from Oram probably the crucial innings.

This.

No-one, not even Ross, could play Narine

And this.

And only one batsman in the top 5 getting over 35.

And 20 wides and multiple dropped catches in the field.

Lots of room for improvement.

 

[BeeGee]

Just to throw a little extra controversy into the mix, it appeared that the bit of shoe behind the line had actually come loose from the sole and was hanging out behind the shoe.

Bowlers should have foot long shoe laces that trail behind their shoes and they'd never have to worry about no balls again.

 

[NasserFan207]

Narine was indeed the difference this series, gave WI excellent control in the field throughout. Though tbf to NZ, that was expected. There are some positives for the Kiwis here, top innings from Taylor coming back from injury btw.