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Tricia McMillan
U19 Captain
I'm glad I fell asleep instead of watching the rest of that.
BeeGee
International Captain
Serious question: What does that mean?
Does it mean they weren't good enough to be aggressive against those bowlers? (In which case they will never "earn the right to be aggressive").
Does it mean they should have played themselves in first before being aggressive? (i.e. normal batting, constructing an innings the way we are all taught to do).
Does it mean the NZ cricket team is in the hands of idiots and we're all ****ed? (**** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****).
I think this is the most angry I've been after a meaningless T20.
Newbies did not do too bad for both teams especially munro and de kock. Don't think the black caps can post more then 120 unless one player plays a brilliant game, but then again buffalo park should be easier then Durbs. Let's hope for a more competitive game, surely the black caps will not repeat this performance.
Clear weekend for east london, no rain expected.
Clear weekend for east london, no rain expected.
wellAlbidarned
International Coach
Hope our batsmen are in the nets working hard at top-edging their pulls with more intent
ohnoitsyou
International Regular
Woke up this morning and saw the headline "Woeful New Zealand hammered". **** McCullum, **** Hesson, **** Nicol went through my head. After looking at the scorecard and watching a few highlights my fears were confirmed, easily one of the worst pieces of captaincy/coaching in a long time.
McCullum looks to be a selfish **** who dropped down to 3 to take some of the pressure of himself. Franklin needed to bat at 3, he can play a really good top order T20 innings at times, he just needs a little while to get in.
Also that positive intent stuff that McCullum goes on about is pure drivel, play good safe cricket shots to good balls and put away the bad ones. In T20 that equates to working good balls into the gaps for singles, and anything marginal putting away for boundaries. Doing that you can easily get 7-8 runs an over, playing safe cricket (by T20 standards at least). Games like this kind of makes you wish KW was in the squad, someone who can play intelligent cricket and knows how to hit the ball into gaps.
McCullum looks to be a selfish **** who dropped down to 3 to take some of the pressure of himself. Franklin needed to bat at 3, he can play a really good top order T20 innings at times, he just needs a little while to get in.
Also that positive intent stuff that McCullum goes on about is pure drivel, play good safe cricket shots to good balls and put away the bad ones. In T20 that equates to working good balls into the gaps for singles, and anything marginal putting away for boundaries. Doing that you can easily get 7-8 runs an over, playing safe cricket (by T20 standards at least). Games like this kind of makes you wish KW was in the squad, someone who can play intelligent cricket and knows how to hit the ball into gaps.
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
Well so this side is useless - I'm so surprised 
. I really hope Anderson, Neesham, Munro and McClenaghan are getting something out of this ****magnet (other than positive intent) or else there is literally no reason for NZ to play.
. I really hope Anderson, Neesham, Munro and McClenaghan are getting something out of this ****magnet (other than positive intent) or else there is literally no reason for NZ to play.loving some Beegee rants though
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Exactly what I was going to say.
What a cluster****. I feel bad for the new guys. Apart from a couple of small highlights (Munro, Mitch) there's not much you can take away from this, and the only (only) excuse for poor performance (apart from picking people like Fulton and Franklin and the whole captain abortion saga) is it's the first game of the series. If the 2nd games goes the same way, or worse, I won't bother watching any of the tour.
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
In other news, sense prevails finally
Cricket: Oram released from NZC contract - Sport - NZ Herald News
Cricket: Oram released from NZC contract - Sport - NZ Herald News
ohnoitsyou
International Regular
yay the beginning of the end for the big plonker
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
This also reminds me of Pakistan in 03, when a bunch of players didn't tour due to security concerns iirc. Debuted Cumming, Richard Jones, Hamish Marshall, Mason, Matthew Walker, Kerry Walmsly and Tama ****ing Canning. We got whitewashed I think, and few of the debuted ever went on, and none ever achieved anything great (though Marshall looked good for a bit).
Difference is these newbies actually have something about them. Anderson, MaclagganSt, Neesham, Munro have some real promise. Fulton, Franklin and Nicol on life support, but I guess calling up people to replace them wouldn't help much in the long run.
Difference is these newbies actually have something about them. Anderson, MaclagganSt, Neesham, Munro have some real promise. Fulton, Franklin and Nicol on life support, but I guess calling up people to replace them wouldn't help much in the long run.
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
you say that, but we know better.
Seriously, how the **** is Nicol in the team? I have never ever seen him play a decent cricketing shot in my life.
Who's ****ed up idea was it for McCullum not to open? This experiment has been going on far too long. It didn't work in the WC, and it hasn't worked since.
Most teams have figured out that when your innings lasts 20 OVERS MAXIMUM you should open with your best batsmen.
I don't understand why this needs to be explained to the coach and captain of an international team.
Howsie
International Captain
Nup, mid 130's. Bowled a couple of slower balls in that over, may have only seen that.
Neesham only got the one ball but I was surprised to see him bang it down at 135 straight up, that's pretty decent wheels all things considered. I really hope both he and Anderson are given a decent run with the NZ team this summer, all the 20/20's and maybe an ODI or two. Could and should be big time players for New Zealand in the future.
Kippax
Cricketer Of The Year
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jcas0167
International Debutant
Cool, I remember he was doing pretty well with the bowling a few years ago before a shoulder problem so that's good to hear.
Definitely hope they stick with them. With Oram scaling back his involvement those guys seem like his natural successors.
Tricia McMillan
U19 Captain
*headdesk*