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***Official*** New Zealand in India 2016

Flem274*

123/5
ewwww that's not a good score to come back to

Always nice to see ex-Central Districts guest opener and Dan antagonizer Murali Vijay score some runs though.
 

vandem

State Captain
Yeah look mate, it's probably obvious you haven't played a lot of cricket if you think how a side bats day two is relevant to whether they were lucky to get through day one without losing more wickets. They lost 5/8 or something. It's unacceptable at any level.
!? Why is my cricket career or non-career relevant?

You think it's unacceptable for Santner to battle for 106 balls and then feather one to the keeper from a world class spin bowler on a turning pitch? Don't think I would call it unacceptable.

You think it's unacceptable for #8 Craig to defend a length ball from a darting SLA from the crease line, yes I agree here.

You think it's unacceptable for #9 Sodhi to play a defensive shot down the line of the ball, but have the ball slide on into his pads and be given out lbw even though the ball is missing leg? Don't think I would call it unacceptable, think I would call it unlucky.

You think it's unacceptable for #10 Boult to play a defensive shot, but not have the technique to push the ball into the pitch, instead have it bounce off the top of his boot and be caught. Don't think I would call it unacceptable, think I would call it unlucky. Don't think I ever managed to do that in my cricket career and I think Boult's a better batsman than I ever was.

You think it's unacceptable for Watling to take a risk with #11 at the other end, and mishit a world class spin bowler on a turning pitch? Don't think I would call it unacceptable.
 

Gnske

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Are you confusing de Villiers with Faf?
Presuming you and that generic Indian poster watched the series you'd remember AB's dancing around the crease like a man trying not to **** himself after devouring the most rancid curry imaginable particularly at Nagpur was a delightful bucket of anti-cricket.

Also reminder ODIs in India don't count as real cricket.

Faf got too much flak on that tour anyway, he did fine.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Haha yep. Run up, action and trajectory very similar but nothing else. Jadeja varies lots of things, is very accurate and has the advantage of being left handed.



Hey guys I wonder where Ashwin comes from? Is it Tamil Nadu?

But on a more serious note, you're right and I did acknowledge that later iirc. He was bowling all over the place before he finally settled down and it was probably just a bit of a coincidence that the rough came into play towards the end of the day when he really got into his groove.

But at the same time I was still disappointed that he was manipulated so easily by the lefty righty combo and KW especially. They definitely contributed to him bowling a bit poorly first up along with everything else mentioned.

He was manipulated by probably the best test match batsman going around in the world. I just call it class, tbh. If he is not capable of that, he wont be the BDK everyone gushes about. I have seen Warne and Murali manipulated worse by batters not named Lara and Sachin, so I think its fine if Ashwin is manipulated off his lengths and lines by Kane Williamson. He is not that good.

What I like about Ashwin though is that he is always thinking wickets and is willing to be hit around if it means a chance to create an opportunity for a breakthrough for the team. Bhajji will just settle into the darts **** from over 1. AFAIC, Bhajji had a LOT more talent as a spinner and a lot more going for him, with his run up, trajectory, action etc. If he had had Ashwin's attitude, he could have been something even more sensational. :(

But gotta love Jaddu. WAG.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Presuming you and that generic Indian poster watched the series you'd remember AB's dancing around the crease like a man trying not to **** himself after devouring the most rancid curry imaginable particularly at Nagpur was a delightful bucket of anti-cricket.

Also reminder ODIs in India don't count as real cricket.

Faf got too much flak on that tour anyway, he did fine.
Apart from getting bowled trying to pull full balls.
 

harsh.ag

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Presuming you and that generic Indian poster watched the series you'd remember AB's dancing around the crease like a man trying not to **** himself after devouring the most rancid curry imaginable particularly at Nagpur was a delightful bucket of anti-cricket.

Also reminder ODIs in India don't count as real cricket.

Faf got too much flak on that tour anyway, he did fine.
Which one - Daemon or OS?
 

91Jmay

International Coach
Said after Day 1 I felt India had a good score. Williamson/Latham excellent, but Ashwin/Jadeja are just epic on these pitches. Unrelenting accuracy.
 

91Jmay

International Coach
Also I said a few months ago Vijay was a tier below Warner and Cook, that is bollocks. Bloke is quality and is on their level. Would still take Cook/Warner in world XI but Vijay class
 

harsh.ag

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Also I said a few months ago Vijay was a tier below Warner and Cook, that is bollocks. Bloke is quality and is on their level. Would still take Cook/Warner in world XI but Vijay class
Think this happened when I picked him in my World XI.
 

91Jmay

International Coach
Yeah, I still disagree with that but do understand the rationale. Warner flaw in Asia the big question mark against him but his ability to win game on his own in 2 sessions in most other conditions just keeps him in for me, especially as Cook is unbelievable in Asia so that covers for him
 

Burner

International Regular
Vijay is prone to brain fades from what I've seen of him actually. He looks the calmest most of the times but then suddenly he plays a rash shot out of no where. Seen him do that a couple of times.

I'd still have him ahead of Warner if you take into account all conditions but below Cook.
 

Moss

International Captain
NZ's tail isn't the worst but still easy prey for Jadeja/Ashwin, I thought something like that might happen. Without the top 4 (or realistically, top 4 minus Guppy) scoring some 250-plus between them India will walk all over their batting most of the time. Disappointing effort in the end but you need more to combat the Indian spin threat. Hope KW can come up with a Cook-esque knock in the second so that NZ don't go into the second test flattened.

The bowling is another story though. Spinners were alright in the first dig but maintaining standards across two innings seems to be an issue.
 

Zinzan

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Yeah I was more disappointed with our bowling yesterday than our lolapse with the bat. There was enough there to make life difficult if our spinners hit the right lengths and bowled the right pace, but sadly they were lucky to land 1 or (2 in a good over) in the right place.
 

Flem274*

123/5
before the tour i was thinking picking NZs most accurate spin option in the jadeja or vettori (i know they're quite different, basically anyone who can fire it in quickly at the rough and let the deck do its thing) mold in a horses for courses policy would work well. i thought that guy was santner, but maybe there's someone better.

yeah im talking about giving devcich a test match.
 

SteveNZ

International Coach
before the tour i was thinking picking NZs most accurate spin option in the jadeja or vettori (i know they're quite different, basically anyone who can fire it in quickly at the rough and let the deck do its thing) mold in a horses for courses policy would work well. i thought that guy was santner, but maybe there's someone better.

yeah im talking about giving devcich a test match.
*Mark Chapman.

Whoever it is, hopefully they're as skilful as Jadeja in being able to bowl left-arm over the wicket - and not even particularly tight to the wicket - orthodox balls that pitch on off and straighten to hit the stumps. Someone should make a gif with Kettleborough making all the **** decisions he did yesterday, with Paul Reiffel's face superimposed. I know we come across as the poor little boy crying about decisions as a national sometimes, but god do I get sick of us copping bad ones over there because sub-continent sides are generally prepared to yell louder for longer and more often than us.
 

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