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***Official*** New Zealand in India 2016

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
Yeah as I told you all last night, Hesson with big wraps on Ronchi as a pure bat, we all know this. Very nearly played that third UAE Test in 2014, before the eleventh hour Vettori selection.

Many men like him of the numerical persuasion would say it's 1) Williamson 2) Taylor 3) Latham 4) Ronchi, as far as credentials against the red ball in Asia/WI goes. Just watch out for a SLA turning it away from his cut-across defensive strokes, or that flicky wristy sweep he always top-edges.
Yeah. But even if you believe this...he's 35, is terrible anywhere else, and frankly the "Just pick Munro" response is valid at this point.
 

Zinzan

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Oh absolutely. He'll get destroyed by Ashwin no matter what. Any good bowler will eat him for breakfast.

Just observation, no evidence and I CBF looking it up. Think he might've done ok against Herath at Dunedin, if I recall correctly? Could be wrong. Just talking relative strengths, not absolute.
If you're just saying his weakness against good spin is 2nd to his weakness against decent attacks with a new ball then we agree....
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
**** it, this has pushed me into a sectarian war.

Fully backing the Munros, Cachopas and Ravals now. Hell, I'm even behind Andy Ellis now.
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
Everyone loves Andy Ellis. Batting 7 and bowling 5th and youd just think that yeah that makes sense.
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Look guys really the only reason Guppy failed in SA was the suffocating pressure from having a reserve opener in the squad.So the only logical thing to do is to cut that spare opener. :happy:
 

Moss

International Captain
So one weird twist in the Raval omission and the return of Neesham aside, it's a disappointingly predictable squad. Cant see Bracewell, Ronchi and Craig having much of a positive role in this series (though would be cool if Craig can do that "hang on for two tests and spring to life in the third" routine if his). Also bit of a cruel joke that Raval doesn't get to travel to if not debut in the motherland after all.

Also, have the selectors learned nothing from NZ's history of injury ridden tours? You don't trim down a squad for a three test series FFS.

If Guptill must still be considered the incumbent, I'd have put him on notice for 2 tests making it clear that Raval would be in serious contention for the third.
 
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Mike5181

International Captain
Gavin Larson:

His white ball numbers though
His white ball numbers though
His white ball numbers though
His white ball numbers though
 

Zinzan

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Gavin Larson:

His white ball numbers though
His white ball numbers though
His white ball numbers though
His white ball numbers though
tbf Larsen did average 28 in Test cricket, even though I was always against his selection with the red ball...
 

Flem274*

123/5
You guys are ignoring the dumbest thing about the squad.

They picked three spinners. We're going into the series with a 12 man squad. God Santa I think can be good if we get the same kind of pitches as SA but Craig and Sodhi's assortments are more useful on normal or flat decks against batsmen not from India. They'll waste the turning conditions with their one pie per over.

NZ won't beat India trying to play India at their own game because they have an Ashwin and our best averaging FC spinner in the squad is probably Kane.

Anyway is Pujara not selected? Because if so then step aside Hesson and co, we have a new winner for dumbest selection of the series.
 

Daemon

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He will play. Vijay and Pujara were rightfully brought back into the XI in the last rained off WI test. They were also our best batsmen against SA, and I believe Kohli isn't dense enough to ignore that.

Dhawan will probably sit out. Not sure if we go in with 3 spinners and a quick or 2-2, but 5 bowlers is unlikely imo and if not for the latter it looks likely that Rohit will also play.
 

Daemon

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Would be fun if we played

Rahul
Vijay
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Rohit/Dhawan
Saha
Ashwin
Bhuv
Mishra
Jadeja

Just for the lulz of batting till 11 and as a big **** you to Jadeja's test batting thus far

Tail would include Test match hundreds by Ashwin, 50s in England by Bhuvi, FC triple hundreds by Jadeja and an FC double by Mishra.
 
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Zinzan

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Speaking of Jadeja, when the hell did his Test bowling average become as awesome :blink:
 

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
Thank god. I knew all that was holding Gup back was the presence of a back-up opener. Without that pressure, he'll go big this series. I see nothing in his technique against seam or spin to suggest there's anything at fault there.

Or maybe he just needs an ODI series before-hand or some warm-up match against a schoolboy XI to secure that elusive 'confidence' that the media quite rightly see as the missing piece of the puzzle.
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Neesham's selection is nice, but weird. I'm pleased he's back (and fit) though was hoping for a big improvement over the upcoming domestic season first. However I don't get where he fits in the team for this India tour.

Are they thinking:
- the usual three seamers (S,B,W) plus Sodhi/Craig plus Santner? Well I guess not - that would have been my first choice but why would you carry two seam bowling all-rounders (Neesham, Bracewell*) in the squad if you don't intend to play one of them?
- two seamers (B,W) plus Neesham plus spin-blowing allrounder (Santner) plus spinner?
- two seamers (B,W) plus Neesham plus two spinners? This would be a typical selection for a side touring India, but our spin-bowling allrounder(s) will probably outbowl one or both of our outright spinners.
- either of the above two, but Bracewell plays and Neesham is reserve for Bracewell?
- three seamers plus Neesham plus spinner?

* all-rounder as defined by NZ cricket
 

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