*Official* New Zealand in India 2010

[Jarquis]

Only in breach of unjust laws.

 

[smash84]

It was actually pretty important that Dhoni made a few runs in this innings; a quick 50 would've been really valuable. India were still behind. Exactly why he failed IMO.

But Dhoni used to be a pretty good player under pressure in the early part of his career. In fact that was what had set him apart initially. He would thrive under pressure. Now it seems he just wants to run away from pressure situations. Don't know what has happened to him now.

Maybe too much attention to commercial activities and less attention on the fields. I heard he is now making more than Shahrukh Khan through his media contracts.

 

[thierry henry]

Would just be interested to hear your thoughts on Vettori atm.

Well tbh I didn't see the Dhoni dismissal, the other 3 were massive wtf shots.

Vettori can be decent at times in the first innings of a game (usually bowling accurately, and slowly but surely picking up wickets when batsman either miss straight breaks or try to slog him).

If we can get ourselves in a position where India have to chase a total, will he bowl us to victory? No no no no no.

 

[Athlai]

Would just be interested to hear your thoughts on Vettori atm.

Isn't the 2nd innings. Vettori can't bowl in the 2nd innings.

 

[Prince EWS]

But Dhoni used to be a pretty good player under pressure in the early part of his career. In fact that was what had set him apart initially.

In Tests? Disagree entirely.

He's basically played one meaningful Test innings in his whole career, and it was the most hilariously reckless match-savings innings you'll ever have the displeasure of watching.

 

[thierry henry]

tbh I can see India piling on a 100 lead here and us collapsing in the 3rd innings anyway.

The other thing that might happen is we set India about 240 or so, which should always be a challenging 4th innings target, and they win by 6 or 7 wickets and we all go "meh"

 

[smash84]

In Tests? Disagree entirely.

He's basically played one meaningful Test innings in his whole career, and it was the most hilariously reckless match-savings innings you'll ever have the displeasure of watching.

Which one was it? Against Pakistan?

 

[Prince EWS]

Which one was it? Against Pakistan?

Nah, against England.

 

[Meridio]

Yusss. Those two were starting to annoy me.

 

[Athlai]

YESSS!!!!!! Gun

 

[Prince EWS]

Southee!!

Take the last two and win us money!

 

[Meridio]

Few drops of rain falling it seems.

 

[Howsie]

Southee

 

[thierry henry]

woot

not totally stoked by Southee consistently bowling 120s though

 

[Hurricane]

Somewhere in between at this stage IMO, but his batting has developed to Test standard an un-naturally early stage of his career. His bowling will probably just take a bit of time to catch up. There's definitely a lot to work with IMO.

Either way, saying Patel's a better bowler isn't really a questionable call.. I think everyone knew that already.

If you are saying that his bowling is not test standard then I think I agree with this. And if I had've known people would have agreed with me - I would have posted this to begin with instead of making a "safe" comment.

I am dissapointed with Williamson's skill as a bowler - but his batting more than makes up for this.

 

[Athlai]

Dire.

 

[Hurricane]

Well tbh I didn't see the Dhoni dismissal, the other 3 were massive wtf shots.

Vettori can be decent at times in the first innings of a game (usually bowling accurately, and slowly but surely picking up wickets when batsman either miss straight breaks or try to slog him).

If we can get ourselves in a position where India have to chase a total, will he bowl us to victory? No no no no no.

Vettori for reasons only known to him loses his confidence in the 2nd inning. He starts to bowl very defensively and takes himself off quickly.

 

[thierry henry]

Vettori for reasons only known to him loses his confidence in the 2nd inning. He starts to bowl very defensively and takes himself off quickly.

imho it simply comes down to the way he bowls. If batsmen only need to keep him out they can.

 

[Hurricane]

Dire.

the rain?

 

[Athlai]

the rain?

Yep.