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[S.P. Fleming]

yep, overall some pretty good cricket from New Zealand. Flynn played well in the situation and should not be critised for his slowness, nz need more of that.

suggestions have been made to pick Mason ahead of Southee at old trafford but because of the extra pace on offer on a fast pitch I think Southee should be given another go, although I do believe it was a little ridiculous for him to go to the top of ourr peking order after just one good bowling performance!

 

[Richard]

More bounce would mean I'd be even more encouraged to pick Mason TBH, he's quite a bit taller than Southee isn't he?

 

[Richard]

Flynn did an excellent job of not getting out (not sure whether he gave any chances)

Nah, barely looked like doing either apart from his first 4 or 5 balls or so against MSP.

 

[Perm]

More bounce would mean I'd be even more encouraged to pick Mason TBH, he's quite a bit taller than Southee isn't he?

I think so, Southee doesn't look very tall for a fast bowler. Not sure actual height for either of them though.

 

[S.P. Fleming]

yea but Southee has more pace than Mason

 

[Flem274*]

yea but Southee has more pace than Mason

Nah they're about the same. Southee could well end up alot quicker but atm its even stevens.

Oram is such a gun. Reckon he'll end up as one of the great allrounders of the decade tbh and one of our very best allrounders. (Everyone to call me biased/OTT/knee jerk in 3...2...1...)

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Do you MSN yet Phlegm?

 

[sportychic33]

Nah they're about the same. Southee could well end up alot quicker but atm its even stevens.

Oram is such a gun. Reckon he'll end up as one of the great allrounders of the decade tbh and one of our very best allrounders. (Everyone to call me biased/OTT/knee jerk in 3...2...1...)

Oram can be gun on his day, however I doubt that he will be one of the great allrounders, he probably could have if he hadn't had such a tough run with injuries.

 

[Woodster]

Yeah I think he'll take a lot of confidence out of that performance. I know it was only 29 runs but he was there at the end after having come in at a period where it could have gone down hill very quickly.

Yes the fact Flynn came through such a pressurised situation will no doubt give him plenty of confidence. I think he was quietly impressive, solid technique etc, but for me the way he handled what could have been an extremely tense period of play was what stood out most.

 

[BC_fan_abored]

can we maybe drop all the flynn posts? what we should really be focusing on is the awfulness of one James Marshall. I had full faith in him before this match but now ive changed my tune. Bring in fulton at 3!

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

can we maybe drop all the flynn posts? what we should really be focusing on is the awfulness of one James Marshall. I had full faith in him before this match but now ive changed my tune. Bring in fulton at 3!

Great Mistakes of the World #382

 

[GIMH]

I don't think anyone has commented on Tremlett's call-up yet - any thoughts people? I think it's unlikely he'll play, unless they somehow decide that 4 seamers and no spinner is the way forward, but it's good that thety've pumped for him over Harmison. I think we're getting an idea as to the pecking order for our bowlers now:

-Flintoff
-Sidebottom
-Broad
-Anderson
-Hoggard
-Tremlett

Not even sure if Harmison would be next in line. Don't really want to find out as it would mean further injuries...

 

[Woodster]

I don't think anyone has commented on Tremlett's call-up yet - any thoughts people? I think it's unlikely he'll play, unless they somehow decide that 4 seamers and no spinner is the way forward, but it's good that thety've pumped for him over Harmison. I think we're getting an idea as to the pecking order for our bowlers now:

-Flintoff
-Sidebottom
-Broad
-Anderson
-Hoggard
-Tremlett

Not even sure if Harmison would be next in line. Don't really want to find out as it would mean further injuries...

Yes would imagine the pecking order would look something like that, but I think if Harmison was to show anything like his past pace and hostility, including a few 5fors, he would leapfrog up the order quicker than most.

I'm in favour of Tremlett at least being in the squad for O.T. His pace and bounce will be a real handful for the NZ batsmen and is a different style of bowler to the others currently in the side. I'm sure the management will keep a very close eye on him in the nets, however, it is still likely that we will remain unchanged imo.

 

[wpdavid]

My only quibble against Tremlett's selection is that he only managed the first innings of Hampshire's last game, so we can hardly be confident about his fitness. Apart from that, he's the logical choice.

Not sure about the pecking order provided a couple of posts ago. If Flintoff is fit, I suspect he'd play instead of Broad and Anderson would keep his place.

 

[Woodster]

Yes his fitness always seems to be a concern, and I'm sure that'll be something else they will be monitoring very closely. Looking forward to see him playing against Worcester in a one-day game today, along with other England hopefuls in Michael Carberry, Simon Jones, Steven Davies etc.

 

[GIMH]

My only quibble against Tremlett's selection is that he only managed the first innings of Hampshire's last game, so we can hardly be confident about his fitness. Apart from that, he's the logical choice.

Not sure about the pecking order provided a couple of posts ago. If Flintoff is fit, I suspect he'd play instead of Broad and Anderson would keep his place.

Hmm, fair point actually

 

[Woodster]

Yes would depend on the balance of the attack and where they are playing I presume.

 

[Debris]

I love watching NZ play test cricket. An fascinating combination of inspiration and awfulness. And it is never boring.

 

[_Ed_]

can we maybe drop all the flynn posts? what we should really be focusing on is the awfulness of one James Marshall. I had full faith in him before this match but now ive changed my tune. Bring in fulton at 3!

I thought he looked alright in the first innings.

 

[Richard]

I didn't! He may have played some good to decent strokes, but he also should have been out 3 times (the last of which he was).

Marshall is a poor batsman, and a lot will have to change before I'll revise that opinion.