*Official* New Zealand in England 2021

[straw man]

Yes this pitch looks quite easy paced and consistent. 'Duke does more after the lacquer scuffs slightly' needs to do some heavy lifting for us.

 

[Starfighter]

He's an international cricketer ffs

He's not a very good one is the issue.

 

[thierry henry]

Henry was crazy good when he first hit the scene. 140km, big away swing.. Potential with the bat. Not sure where it went wrong, but it's been a good 2 or 3 years since he was looking good in international cricket. He's had plenty of chances, I hope this is his last. Hopefully he takes it eh.

Not sure about this take? Essentially the story of his 7 year international career is he has always been good with the new ball in ODIs and bad at everything else. Nothing much has changed.

 

[Meridio]

Uses that though doesn't he? Likes the natural variation that jags back occasionally. Can be quite effective in the right conditions, tbf.

Whenever he's been in the right conditions though he still hasn't succeeded. Always a bit too short.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

Is Boult actually good anymore

2019/20: 13 wickets at 33.6
2020/21: 14 wickets at 35.1

Four tests both seasons.

Worrying ...

 

[nzfan]

Every single test either of them play I think (as they fail miserably) "Surely that's the final test they ever play, we don't have to worry about seeing them ever again!"

But they just won't die!!!

They'll both do a Guptill and end up with nigh on 50 tests of failure.

But then they're economical. They hold one end up this attitude has killed a lot of our domestic spinners. Hope rachin doesn't get desperate and go that way.

 

[thierry henry]

2019/20: 13 wickets at 33.6
2020/21: 14 wickets at 35.1

Four tests both seasons.

Worrying ...

He bowled well against India, but that 14@35, at home against Pakistan and WI, is poor.

Plus the fact he is bowling absolute military medium.

 

[trundler]

2019/20: 13 wickets at 33.6
2020/21: 14 wickets at 35.1

Four tests both seasons.

Worrying ...

Southee has been picking up 5 wickets per match @ 21 for the last 3ish years I think.

 

[thierry henry]

This conversation about Henry is so stupid lol. Henry being the worst bowler to ever play 10 tests for NZ and still being picked in a strong era IS the story. Not ‘oh but actually he’s good for some reason’.

 

[Moss]

Henry was crazy good when he first hit the scene. 140km, big away swing.. Potential with the bat. Not sure where it went wrong, but it's been a good 2 or 3 years since he was looking good in international cricket. He's had plenty of chances, I hope this is his last. Hopefully he takes it eh.

Yeah looked very impressive in his first couple of years in ODIs, was quick enough and troubled the Pakistanis in the UAE. Still a pretty good ODI bowler, in the Kyle Mills vein. Maybe all that time on the bench as a squad member in both tests and ODIs would have have been better spent in FC or honing skills, need others to weigh in.

Bowled a good last over though, he needs to just keep hitting that length if nothing else.

 

[Prince EWS]

This conversation about Henry is so stupid lol. Henry being the worst bowler to ever play 10 tests for NZ and still being picked in a strong era IS the story. Not ‘oh but actually he’s good for some reason’.

Should've picked Dougeh.

Dougeh.

 

[nzfan]

Henry mostly playing under our condition has terrible record after 10 test matches.

Santner... don't bother.

Doull saying we discard players way too quickly? What's he smoking? Can't remember any players discarded of late. Santner has played 25 tests.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

He bowled well against India, but that 14@35, at home against Pakistan and WI, is poor.

Plus the fact he is bowling absolute military medium.

Yep, his terrible test in Melbourne ruining those 19/20 figures.

 

[Athlai]

This conversation about Henry is so stupid lol. Henry being the worst bowler to ever play 10 tests for NZ and still being picked in a strong era IS the story. Not ‘oh but actually he’s good for some reason’.

Guptill and Santa have been brought up but it’s incomparable. Statistically they both performed about as well as the next bloke we had to fill that role. Eras of poor openers and poor spinners.
there Is no way the next 5 seamers we bring in would end up averaging 50 after 13 Tests

 

[thierry henry]

I’m wary of getting increasingly drunk and negative, so let me just clearly lock in my prediction now that we are getting absolutely flogged in this test, and I’m going to get very angry about what poor preparation that is for the final

 

[trundler]

Will Matt Henry end up having made more comebacks than Sami?

 

[Bahnz]

Henry mostly playing under our condition has terrible record after 10 test matches.

Santner... don't bother.

Doull saying we discard players way too quickly? What's he smoking? Can't remember any players discarded of late. Santner has played 25 tests.

haha, you’ve changed your tune

 

[Burgey]

Williamson’s form has been pretty average, but I’m surprised he was dropped

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Dropped

 

[nzfan]

haha, you’ve changed your tune

Yeah mate had to. Never been as disappointed as seeing Santner perform last test match after backing him years on. I'm like a laughing stock

 

[Burgey]

Why doesn't Sibley wash his jersey?

I flicked it on afew overs in and thought he must have dived to avoid a run out