*Official* New Zealand in England 2015

[LegionOfBrad]

Brilliant from Prior there shutting a crackpot Beefy theory down with statistics and evidence.

 

[Zinzan]

The split-screen on the run-out is excellent.

 

[CaptainGrumpy]

McClenaghan on a hiding to nothing here. just doesnt have the pace to bowl where he seems to want to.

What is his success built on, variable bounce pitches?

Good catchers in the outfield and cross bat swipes nicked to the keeper.

 

[Shortodds]

"McClenaghan just bowls pies....his success was often against sides like the West Indies in NZ where they seemed all at sea against all bowling, and he just cashed in. We should have given Wheeler a crack today."

I just don't think this is true. Im sure his debut was in SA where he got a 4fer, and I can't recall a bad serries for him overall. He's never looked the goods, but he must have somthing going for him thats less tangible to have the figures hes obtained.

 

[CaptainGrumpy]

"McClenaghan just bowls pies....his success was often against sides like the West Indies in NZ where they seemed all at sea against all bowling, and he just cashed in. We should have given Wheeler a crack today."

I just don't think this is true. Im sure his debut was in SA where he got a 4fer, and I can't recall a bad serries for him overall. He's never looked the goods, but he must have somthing going for him thats less tangible to have the figures hes obtained.

Luck.

 

[Zinzan]

McClenaghan just bowls pies....his success was often against sides like the West Indies in NZ where they seemed all at sea against all bowling, and he just cashed in. We should have given Wheeler a crack today.

His form for NZ has been **** since early 2014. I think the fact he was one of the better bowlers in the IPL confused the selectors.

 

[Spark]

Haha, how muted was that commentary? Sounded like he was commentating on a mildly interesting cover drive.

 

[weldone]

NZ win was paying 1.25 just before the wicket, and I bit.

 

[Shortodds]

Luck in cricket is most often explained by pressure from the other end.

 

[Spark]

Luck in cricket is most often explained by pressure from the other end.

Nah in ODIs it's most often explained by being "fortunate" enough to bowl at the death when batsmen have no regard for their wicket. Many a 4-for has come with the last 2 or 3 being somewhat facile because they've come in the last three or four overs with the side getting belted anyway.

 

[Shortodds]

Excellent point. Also as I think about applies to McClangahn nicely.

 

[Skyliner]

His form for NZ has been **** since early 2014. I think the fact he was one of the better bowlers in the IPL confused the selectors.

I don't think he was in red hot form in the IPL, quite often Malinga was the one picking up more wickets and I felt McClenaghan was just hanging in there. McClenghans wickets were usually caught in the deep.....very few bowled / lbws.

 

[CaptainGrumpy]

And some scoreboard pressure and thats McClenaghan.

So simply batsmen have looked to score off him. His economy rate is 6.0. And that includes bowling cheap overs after Southee and co have caused a top order collapse.

 

[Shortodds]

Southee and Co is misleading with reference to McClanghans record, unless you rate Mills highly (which you should)

 

[Zinzan]

I don't think he was in red hot form in the IPL, quite often Malinga was the one picking up more wickets and I felt McClenaghan was just hanging in there. McClenghans wickets were usually caught in the deep.....very few bowled / lbws.

Yep, why I said one of the better bowlers in the comp, definitely not best.

 

[Howe_zat]

NZ were 100/1 after 15 overs

England are 100/1 after 15.1 overs

 

[Spark]

oh dear howe

 

[CaptainGrumpy]

Pleased for Santner. This will do wonders for his self belief.

 

[Shortodds]

NZ were 100/1 after 15 overs

England are 100/1 after 15.1 overs

It sure is

 

[wpdavid]

Oh dear. Not the brightest dismissals, even allowing for the match situation.