**Official** New Zealand in Australia Thread

[tooextracool]

aussies are on a 2 game losing streak, good to see that they no longer miss michael bevan

 

[Loony BoB]

haha thats a joke! adams cannot bowl away from home and of late his bowling seems to have gone off the boil completely,

Adams Bowling in his last 9 ODI's,
6 wickets@69.17, RPO:6.23, B/B:1/14

Since then he's performed extremely well in both league and county cricket in England and judging him on those ODI's is like saying Sinclair should never have been brought back in (and bringing him back in hasn't hurt us), or that Martin shouldn't have been played against South Africa.

Having said that, I don't rate Adams higher than Butler, Franklin or Mills at the moment - but that's purely because I've not seen him perform. Best to reserve judgement, considering he has improved dramatically in the domestic world (in both mentality and in level, as playing in County cricket is far better than playing in NZ's domestic games).

If they play him, I'll be just as uneasy as if they play any of those four mentioned bowlers. When you're up against Aussie, it's always going to be a big ask for them.

 

[bryce]

Since then he's performed extremely well in both league and county cricket in England and judging him on those ODI's is like saying Sinclair should never have been brought back in (and bringing him back in hasn't hurt us), or that Martin shouldn't have been played against South Africa.

Having said that, I don't rate Adams higher than Butler, Franklin or Mills at the moment - but that's purely because I've not seen him perform. Best to reserve judgement, considering he has improved dramatically in the domestic world (in both mentality and in level, as playing in County cricket is far better than playing in NZ's domestic games).

well he didn't look too flash against bangladesh.....
he did perform in the county four-dayers but in the one dayers he averaged over 70 with the ball at more than 6 an over, someone has mentioned it before but i think adams bowling is more suited to the longer game but with the sort of skills he has makes him seem like a one day specialist, i think he has not been given a fair go in test matches.

 

[nibbs]

Since then he's performed extremely well in both league and county cricket in England and judging him on those ODI's is like saying Sinclair should never have been brought back in (and bringing him back in hasn't hurt us), or that Martin shouldn't have been played against South Africa.

the bangladeshi's took to him with reletive ease btw. i'd hate to think what the australians might do on a half decent pitch

 

[tooextracool]

Does anyone think that Stuart MacGill should be playing One Dayers for Australia? It seems a waste to have someone of his talent sitting on the sidelines so trashy spinners like Hogg can play.

if he was accurate

 

[JustTool]

I think there was some sarcasm in that comment, so people arguing whether the pitch is good or not, don't bother. It's obvious its a flat batsmen's pitch, JustTool was just trying to start people.

Maybe Ponting will complain the pitch was too flat for entertaining cricket and they need fast, bouncy pitches that don't turn at all....sorry, excuse me, this is in Australia - I wonder what he will come up with

 

[Eclipse]

Maybe Ponting will complain the pitch was too flat for entertaining cricket and they need fast, bouncy pitches that don't turn at all....sorry, excuse me, this is in Australia - I wonder what he will come up with

**** off!!!

if you dont have anything good to say then go away.

 

[Slow Love™]

Does anyone think that Stuart MacGill should be playing One Dayers for Australia? It seems a waste to have someone of his talent sitting on the sidelines so trashy spinners like Hogg can play.

This is a tricky issue, partly because MacGill is so maligned as a player here in Australia (there are numerous reasons for this, mostly involving India, but I don't subscribe to the idea that he's useless, as many seem to).

He's been in some pretty good ING form. I'd certainly consider him, even if he's going for a few runs. He hasn't played many ODI's (and didn't do that much wrong in the 3 he played) but he has a very impressive strike rate in domestic one-day cricket.

 

[LongHopCassidy]

This is a tricky issue, partly because MacGill is so maligned as a player here in Australia (there are numerous reasons for this, mostly involving India, but I don't subscribe to the idea that he's useless, as many seem to).

He's been in some pretty good ING form. I'd certainly consider him, even if he's going for a few runs. He hasn't played many ODI's (and didn't do that much wrong in the 3 he played) but he has a very impressive strike rate in domestic one-day cricket.

I agree.

If Warne hadn't been born MacGill would be in the low 400s by now in Test wickets.

 

[Mister Wright]

if he was accurate

His 30 overs in One Day Internationals have gone for 105 at 3.5 runs per over, and he has 6 wickets @17.50, which I think is reason for another go.

While he may be expensive in list A matches, a strike rate of 26.8 & an average of 21.86 is very acceptable. I feel he should be given more chances at the International arena.

 

[meatspx]

MacGill should have packed his bags a long time ago and got residency in NZ.

 

[bryce]

His 30 overs in One Day Internationals have gone for 105 at 3.5 runs per over, and he has 6 wickets @17.50, which I think is reason for another go.

While he may be expensive in list A matches, a strike rate of 26.8 & an average of 21.86 is very acceptable. I feel he should be given more chances at the International arena.

i've got a feeling the aussie selectors may think it's too late to re-introduce macgill to the one day game

 

[LongHopCassidy]

i've got a feeling the aussie selectors may think it's too late to re-introduce macgill to the one day game

Sadly, he can't bat or field, which'll scupper his chances in ODIs.

 

[Mister Wright]

i've got a feeling the aussie selectors may think it's too late to re-introduce macgill to the one day game

Yeah, you're right, doesn't change my opinion though that he should (or should have) be given more chances.

 

[Craig]

Over all a great match I felt in the first ODI, and as much as I wanted New Zealand to win, I never gave them much chance and then until Kasprowicz conceded 22 runs off the 48th over, I got the feeling we could not lose.

I am really happy to see Daniel Vettori regain his confidence and bowl well, and Chris Cairns back at his best is great. Ian bulter bowled well, and Sinclair's catch is top-3 best I have seen. Brett Lee looked impressive, and I hope somebody knocks Michael Clarke's smirk off his face, it is starting to annoy me.

 

[Waughney]

This is a tricky issue, partly because MacGill is so maligned as a player here in Australia (there are numerous reasons for this, mostly involving India, but I don't subscribe to the idea that he's useless, as many seem to).

He's been in some pretty good ING form. I'd certainly consider him, even if he's going for a few runs. He hasn't played many ODI's (and didn't do that much wrong in the 3 he played) but he has a very impressive strike rate in domestic one-day cricket.

His strike rate is absolutely amazing, he always gets 2-4 wickets a game.

If the wicket suited, I'd give him a game. If he turns out to be too expensive, you always have the likes of Symonds/Lehmann/Clarke to fall back on.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Over all a great match I felt in the first ODI, and as much as I wanted New Zealand to win, I never gave them much chance and then until Kasprowicz conceded 22 runs off the 48th over, I got the feeling we could not lose.

I am really happy to see Daniel Vettori regain his confidence and bowl well, and Chris Cairns back at his best is great. Ian bulter bowled well, and Sinclair's catch is top-3 best I have seen. Brett Lee looked impressive, and I hope somebody knocks Michael Clarke's smirk off his face, it is starting to annoy me.

Is it possible though that he's just happy to be there!? Not something to be annoyed about surely.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Maybe Ponting will complain the pitch was too flat for entertaining cricket and they need fast, bouncy pitches that don't turn at all....sorry, excuse me, this is in Australia - I wonder what he will come up with

I reckon his response will be slightly more varied than your consistent line of attack, and that emoticon you insist on reproducing.

 

[Richard Rash]

Anyone live in Sydney? Whats the weather like today? I heard it was supposed to rain. Who is everyone picking today? I would have to say i favor aussie to come back and level the series.

 

[age_master]

todays forecast

Sydney: Afternoon showers/thunderstorms. 25