*Official* New Zealand in Australia 2022

[TheJediBrah]

Admittedly I don’t understand T20, so I’m generally 20 years off the pace with cricket - is there some newfangled cricket logic that explains having no catchers from Zampa there and not even bringing fielders up to cut off the match-tying single? I genuinely don’t know, I’m assuming these guys do lots of analysis and stuff

You often have one or 2 guys out even if there's only 1 to win, it's a catching position. 9 Fielders in the ring means all you need to do is skew one over the top

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Amazing partnership from Green and Carey. Well done Aus. Boult was our best player, but if he'd held that catch we would've won.

 

[Howsie]

We’re such a defensive team, that’s in how we play and how the team is selected. We ain’t winning many games with Santner, Bracewell and Neesham expected to bowl through the middle overs.

 

[Meridio]

Admittedly I don’t understand T20, so I’m generally 20 years off the pace with cricket - is there some newfangled cricket logic that explains having no catchers for Zampa there and not even bringing fielders up to cut off the match-tying single? I genuinely don’t know, I’m assuming these guys do lots of analysis and stuff

Someone out at deep midwicket/long on is a catching position in that scenario, especially with a tailender batting. Bring them all in and a mistimed hoik wins the game.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

That was too easy for Aus with Green cramping and Zampa.

 

[thierry henry]

You often have one or 2 guys out even if there's only 1 to win, it's a catching position. 9 Fielders in the ring means all you need to do is skew one over the top

I get how it’s a thing if it was the last over, but if Zampa had got himself out there by smoking one to long on I’d have eaten my imaginary hat.

 

[Moss]

Admittedly I don’t understand T20, so I’m generally 20 years off the pace with cricket - is there some newfangled cricket logic that explains having no catchers for Zampa there and not even bringing fielders up to cut off the match-tying single? I genuinely don’t know, I’m assuming these guys do lots of analysis and stuff

I thought Williamson's captaincy and handling of his bowlers was terrible. Not taking anything from Carey and Green who played tremendously well, but after having Australia on the mat, barely attempted to keep the pressure on at any stage.

 

[TheJediBrah]

I get how it’s a thing if it was the last over, but if Zampa had got himself out there by smoking one to long on I’d have eaten my imaginary hat.

It's still often a standard thing to do, and for good reason. Would have been stupid not to have a man out around point, for example, given Zampa already showing the willingness to back away and slash

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Changes for game 2?

I'd love to see this top 7 with Mitchell bowling but it wouldn't happen:
Allen
Conway
Williamson
Mitchell
Latham
Phillips
Neesham

 

[Meridio]

I thought Williamson's captaincy and handling of his bowlers was terrible. Not taking anything from Carey and Green who played tremendously well, but after having Australia on the mat, barely attempted to keep the pressure on at any stage.

Yeah I think Kane's captaincy has really declined in the last little while. We saw it in England repeatedly and it was similar here, making poor use of our bowlers. I don't think bowling Boult out right at the start was the right option, but he should've bowled more than 5 first up when he's a swing bowler and the ball was swinging. Bringing on the spinners so early also not a good move, particularly Bracewell (a very common theme this year), it's an okay tactic to get through overs with a part-timer when batsmen are new to the crease if they're chasing a big target, but here run rate was never going to be an issue, we had to hunt more wickets - should've gone to Ferguson and kept Boult going for a few more.

 

[TheBrand]

Changes for game 2?

I'd love to see this top 7 with Mitchell bowling but it wouldn't happen:
Allen
Conway
Williamson
Mitchell
Latham
Phillips
Neesham

I still think Allen at the top with Guptill and Conway at 4 is ideal, Allen might hit a quickfire 20-30 which could be the difference on these kind of surfaces.

 

[Nintendo]

**** I know green is tall but jeez he's absolutely massive.

 

[anil1405]

Gifting Maxwell wickets and not scoring enough runs off their 4th and 5th bowlers was a huge factor in NZ losing this game.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Unless he was feeling sore Boult should've bowled 7 overs up front.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Unless he was feeling sore Boult should've bowled 7 overs up front.

I'm catching some of the replay now, and bringing Bracewell on after 14 overs when they're 5/50 is criminal. Needed to go for the kill

 

[Nintendo]

So what do Australia do with the XI going into game 2? Win was nice but we've had 2 absolutely shithouse top order collapses in a row, can't forget the 1st odi vs zimbabwe where we nearly ****ed it up before maxwell bailed us out either. I'de like to see 2 of stoinis, finch and marnus binned but I doubt the selectors will do any of that with finch as captain and marnus only having 1 game back. Hopefully we atleast see inglis for stoinis.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Broken record, but FInch and Stoinis still playing is ridiculous

Mitch Marsh coming back would replace Stoin, Head should replace Finch. Presumably Cummins will replace one of those 2 when he's back too

 

[Fuller Pilch]

. Hopefully we atleast see inglis for stoinis.

I see the logic, but then who's your 6th bowler? Marnus or Smith? Also Maxwell is not always going to give you 10 overs (and completely change the game) with the ball.

 

[Moss]

Think this game was a microcosm of NZ's larger issues at the moment. Batting lineup is strong on paper but the top order tends to underachieve (one or two big scores from them here would have taken them to a comfortable total), and the finishing is very suspect. Bowling obviously very reliant on the new ball (the core is the same as 2019 WC), but the Neesham/Macewell combination as 5th/6th bowlers is really going to prove costly, won't get away with it unless the batsmen can put up large totals consistently.

 

[thierry henry]

I just don’t get how no part of the plan was about the bowler actually defeating the batsman. Even during the Green/Carey partnership, we were always going to need wickets whereas they had no great need to be super aggressive. Counting on them holing out made no sense.

When you’ve got Zampa facing Ferguson or Santner, and Zampa is for the most part just looking to survive or take singles, how do you not even have one fielder positioned to take advantage of a well-executed bowling plan? Hell, if not a slip then at least give me a leg gully or something. It’s like the possibility of a conventional dismissal didn’t exist. It feels like an overreach of ‘400 plays 400’ tactics where irrespective of the match situation, KW thought the only way to take wickets was to lure a batsman into slightly miss hitting an attempted 6 to his carefully placed boundary riders.