*Official* New Zealand in Australia 2019/20

[SteveNZ]

I dont want anyone to think I'm making excuses, we've batted terribly. But that is such a **** house decision and only marginally not quite as **** as the one we got last time we were in Australia for a day night Test.

Isa Guha trying to be a voice of reason about the decision and drowned out by a mixture of Waugh seeing a mystery spike and Gilchrist reasoning that CdG didn't fancy it anyway.

 

[morgieb]

Ball passed adjacent to de Grandhomme's glove before deflecting off the helmet to slips. Dar took ages to give it, no one seemed too sure, I didn't see a mark on hotspot and the only spike on snicko was after the ball had passed.

There was a slight murmur when the ball passed the gloves. I probably would’ve put it down to random noise, but can understand why Erasmus would say that counts as evidence that it might be out.

 

[Hicheal Michael]

You can understand an umpire taking a few moments to assess an lbw shout, but a caught behind? That was given out solely on the appeal.

Kettleborough aside, these umpires are not up to it.

 

[Ultra Instinct]

Can someone shut Mark Waugh up..

Nothing more difficult than facing Aus bowlers here..

 

[ataraxia]

You can understand an umpire taking a few moments to assess an lbw shout, but a caught behind? That was given out solely on the appeal.

Kettleborough aside, these umpires are not up to it.

I thought that was out at first tbf.

 

[NZTailender]

Seeing you guys on Boxing Day. Hopefully we'll have got our **** together.

 

[Starfighter]

So they were just saying on the radio of Ferg or Haze gets hit and concussed while batting they can be replaced but obvs not for their current injuries

I think they’ll need to either have subs for everything or nothing tbh

The issue I thought of with concussion subs, is while I understand the well-meaning intent, the vast majority of the time the batsmen get hit it is because of a technical failure or misjudgement in their batting. I know the seriousness of the issues surrounding brain injury, but I'm not sure that means it should be treated differently with respect to substitution.

 

[_Ed_]

Oh god, here's Smithy. He's going to be glum af.

 

[TT Boy]

So they were just saying on the radio of Ferg or Haze gets hit and concussed while batting they can be replaced but obvs not for their current injuries

I think they’ll need to either have subs for everything or nothing tbh

Definitely open for exploitation. Days 4 and 5 your quick has a tight hamstring or twinge in the back, get the spinner in.

 

[_Ed_]

Seeing you guys on Boxing Day. Hopefully we'll have got our **** together.

Boult will make a big difference, surely. I hope.

 

[Grasshopper]

Was it a 50/50 carried thing? Haven’t seen it

Nope, it clearly missed his gloves and it clearly hit his helmet. Farcical decision.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Starc looks so good though. Genuinely feels like he's turned the corner from good but frustrating to consistently good now.

 

[Spark]

One of my complaints re: Dar during the Ashes was that he was clearly affected by the strength of the appeal and the crowd when considering a decision and that led to a succession of Aus bats being fired out on dubious grounds. Seems like it might have happened here, that's just a really really weird decision all around.

 

[ataraxia]

Seeing you guys on Boxing Day. Hopefully we'll have got our **** together.

Cursory reminder that Stokes won a Test match after his team scored 60 in the first innings and were 190 down both innings. Also that Stokes averages far less than the Lord.

 

[TT Boy]

I dont want anyone to think I'm making excuses, we've batted terribly. But that is such a **** house decision and only marginally not quite as **** as the one we got last time we were in Australia for a day night Test.

Isa Guha trying to be a voice of reason about the decision and drowned out by a mixture of Waugh seeing a mystery spike and Gilchrist reasoning that CdG didn't fancy it anyway.

That after he pulled Starc for four with all the time in the world and then followed that up with another boundary.

 

[Starfighter]

One of my complaints re: Dar during the Ashes was that he was clearly affected by the strength of the appeal and the crowd when considering a decision and that led to a succession of Aus bats being fired out on dubious grounds. Seems like it might have happened here, that's just a really really weird decision all around.

Well the problem is the review system failing to correct such decisions through one flaw or another.

 

[Starfighter]

Give Wade another bowl.

 

[GotSpin]

So you think 2 quicks + Lyon + part timers would have knocked over NZ quickly on the day 1 pitch?

How do you know hazelwood would have been injured on the first day

Face it, NZ are getting dicked right now. Blaming the toss is laughable

 

[OverratedSanity]

One of my complaints re: Dar during the Ashes was that he was clearly affected by the strength of the appeal and the crowd when considering a decision and that led to a succession of Aus bats being fired out on dubious grounds. Seems like it might have happened here, that's just a really really weird decision all around.

It's strange because this used to be Dar's strength as an umpire. Would never be influenced by appeals/crowds and just made his own decisions regardless of the noise. Especially in the 2011 Ashes there were a ton of vociferous appeals from Australia when they were under the pump and dar stood his ground and got a majority of the decisions spot on. He's just a mediocre umpire these days.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

Julian and Smith doing about a million times better job of analysing that dismissal, they should do some training sessions for Gilchrest and Waugh.