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***Official*** New Zealand Domestic Season 2008/09

KiWiNiNjA

KiWiNiNjA

International Coach
completeNZer said:
Ryder
McCullum
How
Taylor
Flynn
insert name of huge middle order list here
Oram

Or maybe push Oram up and have that new allrounder fella by the name of Franklin @ 7
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No Styris or Fulton?
Flynn has done crap all in ODI's, I'd rather have Elliott in there.
 
Flem274*

Flem274*

123/5
KiWiNiNjA said:
No Styris or Fulton?
Flynn has done crap all in ODI's, I'd rather have Elliott in there.
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JimmyGS said:
That's as good a note as any to lose my AWTA virginity!

AWTA!
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You preach the gospel of common sense.

My ODI team would be FWIW:

McCullum
Ryder
Fulton (sorry Howitzer, you're awesome but your form is awful :()
Taylor
Broom
Oram
Elliott
Franklin
Vettori
Mills
Southee

Six specialist bowlers and bats to 11. Whats more, no bits and pieces players (Elliott is a genuine ODI allrounder. Tests though, no). Think it will win a lot of games tbh.

Oh and Andy Moles is expected to be new coach as Mott turned it down.

Southee
 
Matt52

Matt52

U19 Vice-Captain
NZTailender said:
Oh, and I think I'll sharpen one knife for every time Hay or Flynn are put forward as openers. If I get enough to fill a hat, I'll start my hunt.
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With Hay, the reason I mentioned him as an opener is I heard Mark Greatbatch say that Hay was a good talent and opened at under19 level when Greatbatch coached him and he(greatbatch) would have no hesitation is choosing him in the NZ side as an opener, because that was his normal position.
 
NZTailender

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Matt52 said:
With Hay, the reason I mentioned him as an opener is I heard Mark Greatbatch say that Hay was a good talent and opened at under19 level when Greatbatch coached him and he(greatbatch) would have no hesitation is choosing him in the NZ side as an opener, because that was his normal position.
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Playing some recent cricket where you're coming in against the new ball and fresh bowlers helps though. We generally bat much better later on when the ball isn't new and the bowlers have settled down a bit.
 
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completeNZer

School Boy/Girl Captain
KiWiNiNjA said:
No Styris or Fulton?
Flynn has done crap all in ODI's, I'd rather have Elliott in there.
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Off the top of my head couldn't remember the main team so just went with most of the test team.

What's with Fulton and this board lol

I agree about Flynn but I think we should stick with him just have a feeling about him being about Flem class when he's 30 if he's stuck with.

I'm not making any wild predictions just a feeling
 
Smudge

Smudge

Hall of Fame Member
Story on Ian Butler here:

Ian Butler celebrated his 27th birthday just the way he wanted to yesterday - with a game of cricket.

The Otago all-rounder was not required to do much but sit and watch, although he was called on to play a game of 500 when rain forced the players from Queens Park shortly after 3pm with Otago 211 for four.

These days even a frustrating rain-affected day of cricket is a good day.

Four years earlier the former Black Caps fast bowler faced an uncertain future in the game.

He came off the field after playing for New Zealand against Australia in a one-dayer in December 2004 and could barely walk.

"I couldn't sit down. I couldn't walk. My back was in agony," he said.

"We didn't really know what was wrong and I tried to play on for two months after that. I just wasn't fit . . . and New Zealand Cricket said, `Look, you have to go and get a scan.' When it came back it was severe disc compression and two bulging discs which, in a way, was worse than a stress fracture because a stress fracture can heal.

"I'll always have it. But I've put a lot of training in and am learning what I can and can't do." The outlook was bleak. The best medical opinion said he should never bowl again. And he has not, well, at least not at the pace he used to.

Those 140kmh-plus torpedoes are consigned to history. He is powerless to prevent wicketkeeper Derek de Boorder creeping up to the stumps when he comes on to bowl. And rather than a new cherry in his hand he has to settle for bowling third or even fourth change.

But he has defied the odds and is back bowling. Butler also believes he is a smarter bowler now.

Before his injury he used to charge in and bowl as fast as he could. Now, his bowling plans are more sophisticated and he has to worry about scoring runs as well.

"When I thought I was never going to bowl again I thought I'd be quite happy to play as a batter because I didn't want to give up cricket.

"I spent two years working on my batting and played a couple of one-dayers and twenty/20s for Northern Districts as a batsman. But now I'm able to do both it's much more enjoyable because you know you can contribute as two players to a side."

Butler sat out the entire 2005-06 season before making a comeback as a specialist batsman for Northern Districts' A side.

But his debut for Otago last week was his first first-class match since 2004. As far as debut outings goes it was pretty good.

He bowled well enough, taking two wickets in Northern Districts' second innings and scored a valuable 37 not out with the bat in a last wicket stand with James McMillan which helped Otago secure first innings points.

While it has been widely reported that Butler has moved to Otago to rejuvenate his international career, he is realistic about his international prospects. With so many good all-rounders in New Zealand, Butler said he was two or three seasons away from challenging for a spot in the Black Caps.

Right now he is content to contribute to Otago's campaign, even if that means no birthday cake, candles or presents.
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JimmyGS

First Class Debutant
He will never play for the Black Caps again. If he thinks his best shot is in 3-4 years. When younger all-rounders (Corey Anderson, Harry Boam, Doug Bracewell) are 20/21. Wouldn't say he'd have much of a chance then.
 
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Polo23

International Debutant
*shrug* meh, Eden Park will prob be free. All my money goes towards petrol :laugh:

Well..i'm off to Eden Park :)
 
Bahnz

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Oram said yesterday that he'd strap his finger up and do some bowling. Still amazed he managed to take a wicket though.
 
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Polo23

International Debutant
Athlai said:
Hasn't started yet, hope they'll get some play. And that the Firebirds kill the Aces :ph34r:
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Don't take to much out of the "live" scorecard on the blackcaps site, it is wrong. Play had started well before I posted on here today.

Just got back, a good days play. I left after Bell had bought up his hundred, started the season just how he started last season. Franklin was with him on 21 and Crook the last man out for 40. Mills had gone wicketless and the 3 wickets that had fallen were shared around. Soo...when I left I think Wellington were something like 170/3. Bell and Franklin looking as solid as houses, no idea what the score is now...radiosport should update soon.
 
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