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**Official** 'My Current World XI' Thread
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Bapu Rao Swami
U19 12th Man
World Test Xi
I know this topic has been posted several times but who would be in your world XI presently and why?
Bapu's XI:
a) Herschelle Gibbs | Besides being a prolific sledger, Gibbs is a prolific runmaker too.He's a blaster in the Michael Slater mould and his front foot hook remind ppl of Viv Richards. A terrific fielder at the slips. Gibbs equalled the world record when he made three successive 100's in limited-overs...Come rain or shine he will be gliding that trademark drive of his through the covers. Has scored 2142 runs at an average of 67 in the past 25 months |
b) Matthew Hayden | A player that plays with muscular authority, and hits the ball on all parts of ground with lightning speed. Adam Gilchrist is easier on the eye than perhaps any other batsman in recent memory, while Sachin Tendulkar and Ricky Ponting possess a greater array of strokes. Rahul Dravid has a more pleasing technique, and the upright elegance of Michael Vaughan has its admirers, as does Inzamam-ul-Haq's power and finesse. Brian Lara, the genius who raises his game for the big occasion, But according to stats, separating the wheat from the chaff - then Hayden is a country mile ahead of everyone else. He dominates the opposition in a manner not seen since Bradman's heydays.In the past 25 months he has scored 2417 runs at an average of 70 (69.60), the tour of Zimbabwe is ahead and with Price, Blignaut and Streal all out, Hondo should lead their bowling = advantage Hayden|
c) Ricky Ponting | A naturally gifted batsman and a remarkable fielder, another man who can play all shots from the book. Correctly named Wisden Cricketer of the yr 2003, he achieved something very rare in teh cricketing world - his 2003 catalogue of achievement reads 2501 runs, 12 centuries and a bauble called the World Cup. He has scored 2476 runs in the past 25 months at an average of 80 (79.87)|
d) Brian Lara | In over 130 years of test cricket history no man has ever scored 400 apart from him. Only two men have scored 2 triple tons, him being one of them. The biggest man who saves his best for the biggest occassions. In the past 25 months he has scored 2436 runs at an average of 66 (65.84)|
e)Raul Dravid | Anyone at Headingley or Adelaide would have witnessed the best of Dravid. A man who more often than not gets the job done when the stakes are its highest (esp post 2001). He's a wonderful cutter of the ball and his drives of the off side remind ppl of Walcott. His driving is classy and sure, he can cut and pull, he is writsy off his hips and he can sweep but at times scores very slow. Perhaps India's most valuable player (post 2001). He has scored 2122 runs in the past 25 months at an average of 67 (66.71) |
f) Darren Lehmann (over Graham Thorpe, Saurav Ganguly, VVS Laxman, Jacques Kallis, Andy Flintoff)| Lehmann is there as backup batsman, ha steh ability to shoot hard on all parts of the field and not get trapped within field placements. He has natural raw power in his shots and therefore can ammend his game on all conditions keeping his shots to the ground if required. In the past 25 months he has scored 1142 runs at an avg 64 | (I'd have him in there as a backup slow bowler to Warne, moreover he can also bat something Murali cannot.
g) Adam Gilchrist | According to the manner in which he plays, its remarkable he maintains such a high level of consistency. He'd be in my XI to kickstart the scorecard meter, if not then his keeping skills alone warrant him a place in my XI|
h)Shaun Pollock | A dangerous bowler in the McGrath who could aim a silver coin 6 times outta 6 within in an over..a stingy bowler who doesn't just spray the ball at different places but maintains a high level of accuracy, esp within the corridor of uncertainty. He's one bowler who can bowl throat balls wherein the batsman doesn't know whether to hook or duck them. In teh past 25 months he has a batting average of 42, has taken 78 wkts @ 24|
i)Shane Warne | I'd have him him over Murali in that his past record shows he's a performer on all pitches, and a matchwinning one. He's particularly good in crunch games and has tremendous power in his shoulders..is good at changing the flight, speed, bounce and turn of the ball. Googlies, Flippers, leg-breaks, you name it he has it all and is one man you can always rely on to pick up 'quality and high profile' wickets. In the past 25 months he has 67wkts at a bowling avg of 19|
j)Shoaib Akhtar | I'd have him in there even if he were been thrashed all round the park in this Indo-Pak series.(he's taken all the main wkts in the third Indo-Pak test, figures are 22 overs - 7 maidens - 47 runs and 3 wickets. This man can turn a match on any given day against any given opposition...nuff said. In the past 25 months he 60 wkts at an avg of 16 |
k)Jason Gillespie | A man who can move the ball both ways and is upthere amongst the very best bowlers. He's one guy who performs consistently on all pitches. having him as a third bowler in my squad while Akhtar and Pollock open with the new ball. In the past 25 months he has taken 76 wickets at an avg of 24 |
This squad would win 8 outta 10 times on any pitch!
I know this topic has been posted several times but who would be in your world XI presently and why?
Bapu's XI:
a) Herschelle Gibbs | Besides being a prolific sledger, Gibbs is a prolific runmaker too.He's a blaster in the Michael Slater mould and his front foot hook remind ppl of Viv Richards. A terrific fielder at the slips. Gibbs equalled the world record when he made three successive 100's in limited-overs...Come rain or shine he will be gliding that trademark drive of his through the covers. Has scored 2142 runs at an average of 67 in the past 25 months |
b) Matthew Hayden | A player that plays with muscular authority, and hits the ball on all parts of ground with lightning speed. Adam Gilchrist is easier on the eye than perhaps any other batsman in recent memory, while Sachin Tendulkar and Ricky Ponting possess a greater array of strokes. Rahul Dravid has a more pleasing technique, and the upright elegance of Michael Vaughan has its admirers, as does Inzamam-ul-Haq's power and finesse. Brian Lara, the genius who raises his game for the big occasion, But according to stats, separating the wheat from the chaff - then Hayden is a country mile ahead of everyone else. He dominates the opposition in a manner not seen since Bradman's heydays.In the past 25 months he has scored 2417 runs at an average of 70 (69.60), the tour of Zimbabwe is ahead and with Price, Blignaut and Streal all out, Hondo should lead their bowling = advantage Hayden|
c) Ricky Ponting | A naturally gifted batsman and a remarkable fielder, another man who can play all shots from the book. Correctly named Wisden Cricketer of the yr 2003, he achieved something very rare in teh cricketing world - his 2003 catalogue of achievement reads 2501 runs, 12 centuries and a bauble called the World Cup. He has scored 2476 runs in the past 25 months at an average of 80 (79.87)|
d) Brian Lara | In over 130 years of test cricket history no man has ever scored 400 apart from him. Only two men have scored 2 triple tons, him being one of them. The biggest man who saves his best for the biggest occassions. In the past 25 months he has scored 2436 runs at an average of 66 (65.84)|
e)Raul Dravid | Anyone at Headingley or Adelaide would have witnessed the best of Dravid. A man who more often than not gets the job done when the stakes are its highest (esp post 2001). He's a wonderful cutter of the ball and his drives of the off side remind ppl of Walcott. His driving is classy and sure, he can cut and pull, he is writsy off his hips and he can sweep but at times scores very slow. Perhaps India's most valuable player (post 2001). He has scored 2122 runs in the past 25 months at an average of 67 (66.71) |
f) Darren Lehmann (over Graham Thorpe, Saurav Ganguly, VVS Laxman, Jacques Kallis, Andy Flintoff)| Lehmann is there as backup batsman, ha steh ability to shoot hard on all parts of the field and not get trapped within field placements. He has natural raw power in his shots and therefore can ammend his game on all conditions keeping his shots to the ground if required. In the past 25 months he has scored 1142 runs at an avg 64 | (I'd have him in there as a backup slow bowler to Warne, moreover he can also bat something Murali cannot.
g) Adam Gilchrist | According to the manner in which he plays, its remarkable he maintains such a high level of consistency. He'd be in my XI to kickstart the scorecard meter, if not then his keeping skills alone warrant him a place in my XI|
h)Shaun Pollock | A dangerous bowler in the McGrath who could aim a silver coin 6 times outta 6 within in an over..a stingy bowler who doesn't just spray the ball at different places but maintains a high level of accuracy, esp within the corridor of uncertainty. He's one bowler who can bowl throat balls wherein the batsman doesn't know whether to hook or duck them. In teh past 25 months he has a batting average of 42, has taken 78 wkts @ 24|
i)Shane Warne | I'd have him him over Murali in that his past record shows he's a performer on all pitches, and a matchwinning one. He's particularly good in crunch games and has tremendous power in his shoulders..is good at changing the flight, speed, bounce and turn of the ball. Googlies, Flippers, leg-breaks, you name it he has it all and is one man you can always rely on to pick up 'quality and high profile' wickets. In the past 25 months he has 67wkts at a bowling avg of 19|
j)Shoaib Akhtar | I'd have him in there even if he were been thrashed all round the park in this Indo-Pak series.(he's taken all the main wkts in the third Indo-Pak test, figures are 22 overs - 7 maidens - 47 runs and 3 wickets. This man can turn a match on any given day against any given opposition...nuff said. In the past 25 months he 60 wkts at an avg of 16 |
k)Jason Gillespie | A man who can move the ball both ways and is upthere amongst the very best bowlers. He's one guy who performs consistently on all pitches. having him as a third bowler in my squad while Akhtar and Pollock open with the new ball. In the past 25 months he has taken 76 wickets at an avg of 24 |
This squad would win 8 outta 10 times on any pitch!
ajaagarkarajaaja
Banned
Sehwag should be in the team (atleast on current form) and what is Akhter doing in the team? Do you want the world team to chase 500+ runs every time? Or did Akhter is being accomodated in the team because no Pak cricket is good enough to qualify for World 11??
tooextracool
International Coach
and finally someone had the common sense to not pick tendulkar....well done man
Bapu Rao Swami
U19 12th Man
Good point AA,ajaagarkarajaaja said:
I personally admire Sehwag, but as an opener he isn't better than Hayden, between him and Gibbs - I think Sehwag indeed is better...although I feel its hypothetical!
Bapu Rao Swami
U19 12th Man
tooextracool said:
I'm not anti Sachin but despite the high scores his made this yr, he hasn't exactly impressed me to warrant a place in the XI. 2003, he was aweful.
anyway this list is based on pure stats! (cricinfo screws Wisden hahaha
)Performances for 2 Years to 13/04/2004
Player Batting Bowling Dismissals
1 H H Gibbs (SAF) 2142 Runs @ 66.94
2 M L Hayden (AUS) 2417 Runs @ 69.06
3 R T Ponting (AUS) 2476 Runs @ 79.87 0 Wickets @ 0.00
4 J H Kallis (SAF) 1826 Runs @ 83.00 46 Wickets @ 31.35
5 G P Thorpe (ENG) 710 Runs @ 54.62
6 S Chanderpaul (WIN) 960 Runs @ 68.57 2 Wickets @ 14.00
7 A C Gilchrist (AUS) 1210 Runs @ 46.54 96 Dismissals @ 4.17 per match
8 S M Pollock (SAF) 661 Runs @ 41.31 78 Wickets @ 23.92
9 S K Warne (AUS) 226 Runs @ 17.38 67 Wickets @ 18.06
10 Shoaib Akhtar (PAK) 117 Runs @ 7.80 60 Wickets @ 16.13
11 S J Harmison (ENG) 111 Runs @ 6.17 64 Wickets @ 24.33
Bapu Rao Swami
U19 12th Man
Swervy said:
I felt Lehmann can offer more in terms of bowling in that he's a slow bowler
With Kallis in, the bowling would be too one dimensional like it already is within the SA'an bowling lineup. Laxy too is a better bat, but then I'd run short of one 5th bowler...
However if I could make another list I'd have Sehwag instead of Gibbs and thats about it.
Swervy
International Captain
Bapu Rao Swami said:I felt Lehmann can offer more in terms of bowling in that he's a slow bowler
With Kallis in, the bowling would be too one dimensional like it already is within the SA'an bowling lineup. Laxy too is a better bat, but then I'd run short of one 5th bowler...
However if I could make another list I'd have Sehwag instead of Gibbs and thats about it.
you can make another list if you want..although I think Gibbs is better than Sehwag
Langeveldt
Soutie
my list..
1. M Hayden
2. R Dravid
3. B Lara
4. J Kallis
5. S Tendulkar
6. R Ponting
7. I Ul Haq
8. A Gilchrist
9. S Pollock
10. M Muralitharan
11. G McGrath
Bit weak on bowling, but Murali is excellent on long spells, and shouldnt have much problem at bowling sides out twice..
1. M Hayden
2. R Dravid
3. B Lara
4. J Kallis
5. S Tendulkar
6. R Ponting
7. I Ul Haq
8. A Gilchrist
9. S Pollock
10. M Muralitharan
11. G McGrath
Bit weak on bowling, but Murali is excellent on long spells, and shouldnt have much problem at bowling sides out twice..
1. Hayden
2. Smith
3. Lara
4. Tendulkar
5. Ponting*
6. Kallis
7. Gilchrist+
8. Warne
9. Akhtar
10. Muralitharan
11. McGrath
Akhtar and McGrath would be an excellent partnership with the new ball and Warne/Murali can each bowl long spells once it gets softer. Kallis isn't all that bad to have as a 5th bowler workhorse and I suppose SRT could bowl a bit if desperate.
The batting line-up is simply solid. No's 3-7 could come in at any order they wanted and it wouldn't make all that much difference.
2. Smith
3. Lara
4. Tendulkar
5. Ponting*
6. Kallis
7. Gilchrist+
8. Warne
9. Akhtar
10. Muralitharan
11. McGrath
Akhtar and McGrath would be an excellent partnership with the new ball and Warne/Murali can each bowl long spells once it gets softer. Kallis isn't all that bad to have as a 5th bowler workhorse and I suppose SRT could bowl a bit if desperate.
The batting line-up is simply solid. No's 3-7 could come in at any order they wanted and it wouldn't make all that much difference.
tooextracool
International Coach
btw i wasnt being sarcastic there.Bapu Rao Swami said:I'm not anti Sachin but despite the high scores his made this yr, he hasn't exactly impressed me to warrant a place in the XI. 2003, he was aweful.
anyway this list is based on pure stats! (cricinfo screws Wisden hahaha
anyways heres my world XI
greame smith
hayden
ponting
lara
dravid
flintoff/pollock
gilchrist
warne
murali
harmison
mcgrath/bond(depending on the pollock/flintoff situation)
Mr Mxyzptlk
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I'm amazed at how anyone can leave Kallis out of a World XI. What more must one man do?
Eclipse
International Debutant
Some people just dont rate Kallis.
It's interesting because he has awsome stats but I have seen him play against us and just though "ahhgg" scored so slow got hammerd all over the place when he was bowling.
In the end he probably still avrages mid 40s against Australia but I feel in the past he has done SA a diservice by scoring so slow. No momentum is gained and run scoring really dries up. Kallis often ends up not out or one of the last men out but IMHO in the past his style of play has put undue pressure on his team mates at the other end.
By the looks of things he is more aggresive these days still not that aggresive but he has pushed his test strike rate above 39 wich it was hovering on for along time.
I think he will do well with the bat next time we play him but I do find it hard to rate him untill he really performes against us. Again this is more than just a stats thing.
It's interesting because he has awsome stats but I have seen him play against us and just though "ahhgg" scored so slow got hammerd all over the place when he was bowling.
In the end he probably still avrages mid 40s against Australia but I feel in the past he has done SA a diservice by scoring so slow. No momentum is gained and run scoring really dries up. Kallis often ends up not out or one of the last men out but IMHO in the past his style of play has put undue pressure on his team mates at the other end.
By the looks of things he is more aggresive these days still not that aggresive but he has pushed his test strike rate above 39 wich it was hovering on for along time.
I think he will do well with the bat next time we play him but I do find it hard to rate him untill he really performes against us. Again this is more than just a stats thing.
tooextracool
International Coach
so for u vaughan is not GOOD enough to be in there?the only reason i left him out is because my team was based on current form which he has been struggling with but hes definetly has more talent than most of the other players in there. why shouldnt harmison be in there....on current form hes the best bowler in the world....but i guess ud rather pick a bunch of has beens like mcgrath and tendulkar instead? if englishmen arent that good then can u explain what they are doing at no 3 in the icc test championship table?marc71178 said:
tooextracool
International Coach
there was only one place that i could put kallis and that was at no 6. then i saw that there was no point having a defensive player like him at 6....if hes in the squad he should bat in the 3-4-5s and well who should i drop ponting,dravid or lara?Mr Mxyzptlk said: