*Official* Match 17 - Canada v Pakistan

[Xuhaib]

call me a pessimist but don't think this batting lineup will win you a world cup its like watching India bowl a few good players rest club standard and unlike Indian batting Pakistan bowling is not loaded with ATG's QF or SF at best I feel though hope I am proved wrong.

 

[salman85]

I don't need to call you a pessimist.It's obvious

Pakistan has never relied on it's batting anyway.It's always been the bowling,which quite frankly,is up there with the best,if not THE best in his tournament.Plus,you don't necessarily need an all time great in your batting lineup to win a World Cup.It's all about teamwork,and right now,the team is giving out very positive signals,both on and off the field.The thing that works in Pakistan's favor,and has always worked in Pakistan's favor,is the number of match winners in the team.Afrid,Shoaib,Gul,Misbah,Razzaq..these players can single handedly win you matches with minimal support from the others.That's always been the team's strength,and this time is no different.

 

[smash84]

Seen this a **** load tonight:

I just love his celebration style. My favorite celebration style in world cricket these days.

 

[salman85]

That's probably as signature a celebration as it gets.I don't recall any other bowler using the same celebration constantly.Lee had his ground pumping,there was Shoaib's aeroplane,Ambrose's finger spin..but not many others.

 

[vcs]

Yeah, I love Afridi's celebration. Simple and classy, yet the passion comes through.

 

[smash84]

That's probably as signature a celebration as it gets.I don't recall any other bowler using the same celebration constantly.Lee had his ground pumping,there was Shoaib's aeroplane,Ambrose's finger spin..but not many others.

agreed

 

[Howe_zat]

Might they consider batting Razzaq up the order? Frees up a bowling spot if you drop Hafeez or lets you play Shehzad as a dangerous #6/7. I agree that he's only got two gears but then you could argue so does Watson.

Of course, maybe it's too late to heavily tinker with the batting order.

 

[Prince EWS]

Might they consider batting Razzaq up the order? Frees up a bowling spot if you drop Hafeez or lets you play Shehzad as a dangerous #6/7. I agree that he's only got two gears but then you could argue so does Watson.

Of course, maybe it's too late to heavily tinker with the batting order.

Pakistan's batting is extremely formulaic; everyone does their job and it's better than the sum of its parts. I reckon it'd go completely to the dogs if you tried to tinker with it. While they batted poorly against Canada, it's worth remembering that their batting lineup is really dire on paper. I think only Misbah averages 35+ in ODI cricket. They've been doing better than they should of late because everyone knows their role so well.

 

[vcs]

They'll need their openers to contribute at some point, presumably against the better teams.

 

[Prince EWS]

They'll need their openers to contribute at some point, presumably against the better teams.

Yeah, their openers need to just get them off to some sort of quick start so Younis and Misbah can then milk the middle overs. Younis and/or Misbah coming to the crease inside 15 throws everything out.

 

[smash84]

Pakistan's batting is extremely formulaic; everyone does their job and it's better than the sum of its parts. I reckon it'd go completely to the dogs if you tried to tinker with it. While they batted poorly against Canada, it's worth remembering that their batting lineup is really dire on paper. I think only Misbah averages 35+ in ODI cricket. They've been doing better than they should of late because everyone knows their role so well.

Yeah, their openers need to just get them off to some sort of quick start so Younis and Misbah can then milk the middle overs. Younis and/or Misbah coming to the crease inside 15 throws everything out.

Fair points both of these

 

[Furball]

Afridi benefits so much from UDRS.


I just wonder how much lower average and how many more wickets Kumble would have had if we had UDRS before.
He hit the pad so many times.

Would've been the same, as Kumble didn't have a ****ing clue how to use the system to his benefit.

 

[smash84]

Would've been the same, as Kumble didn't have a ****ing clue how to use the system to his benefit.

 

[vcs]

Would've been the same, as Kumble didn't have a ****ing clue how to use the system to his benefit.

On the first occasion the system was ever used. I think he would have caught on eventually.

 

[Jono]

Of course he would have.

He retired a few months after its introduction. Barely saw it really.