*Official* Match #10 — Australia Vs South Africa Oct 12th, Lucknow

[the big bambino]

Not that it’s even a chance there’s no way in hell you’d actually want Khawaja in there now. Guys absolute lazy running between the wickets and in the field. The sort of attitude the team doesn’t need right now

Would rather a bloke who can’t run but can score them than others who can run but can’t score them.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Would rather a bloke who can’t run but can score them than others who can run but can’t score them.

Khawaja wouldn't do anything better than the blokes already in the squad

 

[CricAddict]

Khawaja wouldn't do anything better than the blokes already in the squad

I remember very well that this is what many people here said before he got picked in the test squad as well. And he proved them all wrong. He averages 42@85 over his ODI career. That is higher than half the batsmen in current squad.

 

[TheJediBrah]

I remember very well that this is what many people here said before he got picked in the test squad as well. And he proved them all wrong.

Form what I remember most people were clamouring for him to be recalled to the Test side, because he was dominated FC cricket.

He's barely been playing white ball cricket. This is a bad comparison

 

[TheJediBrah]

Khawaja is also the last thing an aging, slow in the field side needs added. Even if he was one of the best batting options

 

[loterry1994]

Would rather a bloke who can’t run but can score them than others who can run but can’t score them.

I’d much rather prefer a guy that had some form coming into the word cup compared to some guy that hasn’t played the short formats for Aus in like 4 years. Like I said once Head comes back this line up and Marsh in it looks a lot better. And yes I’d take some dude that runs between the wickets better which is pretty important these days in odis. It’s like the best way to get into your innings when you are facing a tough pitch and not timing it early in your innings. And the fielding is more important than in odis than tests where you get more action which showed yesterday we were poor and it might of cost us like 50 runs

 

[CricAddict]

Form what I remember most people were clamouring for him to be recalled to the Test side, because he was dominated FC cricket.

He's barely been playing white ball cricket. This is a bad comparison

This is your post in 2019. And if you read through the last few pages of that, you will see that many others were echoing your thoughts that Khawaja is ****.

Australian test selection 2019-2020

PATTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO So pumped to see him back

www.cricketweb.net

This is you advocating that Khawaja is a better white ball player than a FC player than Love.

3rd Test at Headingley, Leeds

Love strikes me as someone who would've gutsed it out at Test cricket though. I know it's physchology bollocks but Khawaja just seems soft.

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3rd Test at Headingley, Leeds

Yeah getting rid of more batsmen will help our run scoring problems Our batsmen don’t score runs so it’s a moot point

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[Line and Length]

I agree with all the comments regarding the batting being a problem but I also find it puzzling that, in India, we persist with 3 quicks plus medium pace all-rounders.

 

[TheJediBrah]

This is your post in 2019. And if you read through the last few pages of that, you will see that many others were echoing your thoughts that Khawaja is ****.

Australian test selection 2019-2020

PATTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO So pumped to see him back

www.cricketweb.net

This is you advocating that Khawaja is a better white ball player than a FC player than Love.

3rd Test at Headingley, Leeds

Love strikes me as someone who would've gutsed it out at Test cricket though. I know it's physchology bollocks but Khawaja just seems soft.

www.cricketweb.net

3rd Test at Headingley, Leeds

Yeah getting rid of more batsmen will help our run scoring problems Our batsmen don’t score runs so it’s a moot point

www.cricketweb.net

Almost like 2019 and 2021 were different times

 

[the big bambino]

I’d much rather prefer a guy that had some form coming into the word cup compared to some guy that hasn’t played the short formats for Aus in like 4 years. Like I said once Head comes back this line up and Marsh in it looks a lot better. And yes I’d take some dude that runs between the wickets better which is pretty important these days in odis. It’s like the best way to get into your innings when you are facing a tough pitch and not timing it early in your innings. And the fielding is more important than in odis than tests where you get more action which showed yesterday we were poor and it might of cost us like 50 runs

So would I and think he should have been given game time. So that's bad planning by the selectors. There's few better than him in the squad and by default no one outside of it. Given the circumstances I'd pick him anyway. I like your reasoning about athletic fielding and good wicket running. Pity you couldn't name anyone that could do that and a better job than Ussie.

 

[TheJediBrah]

So would I and think he should have been given game time. So that's bad planning by the selectors. There's few better than him in the squad and by default no one outside of it. Given the circumstances I'd pick him anyway. I like your reasoning about athletic fielding and good wicket running. Pity you couldn't name anyone that could do that and a better job than Ussie.

I actually don't disagree that he could have been given more ODI cricket for Aus over the last few years. But hindsight is key. There just wasn't a place for him with Warner and Finch entrenched and Smith averaging 50 at 3. And then Head came along.

And regardless of all that, picking him for this WC right now was never a serious option

 

[the big bambino]

I actually don't disagree that he could have been given more ODI cricket for Aus over the last few years. But hindsight is key. There just wasn't a place for him with Warner and Finch entrenched and Smith averaging 50 at 3. And then Head came along.

And regardless of all that, picking him for this WC right now was never a serious option

maybe but wasn't Smith an iffy selection in odis? It was plain Warner was tanking as was Finch who then retired. These things were known well enough to keep Usman in consideration.

 

[TheJediBrah]

maybe but wasn't Smith an iffy selection in odis? It was plain Warner was tanking as was Finch who then retired. These things were known well enough to keep Usman in consideration.

No your information is wrong. Smith has not been an iffy selection since 2014 ish. He's averaged over 50 batting at 3 IIRC and has pretty much been our best batsman. Warner was never "tanking" but Finch's downslide was incredibly obvious in 2022. He should have retired/been dropped earlier but if he was it would have been Head replacing him not Khawaja

 

[the big bambino]

No your information is wrong. Smith has not been an iffy selection since 2014 ish. He's averaged over 50 batting at 3 IIRC and has pretty much been our best batsman. Warner was never "tanking" but Finch's downslide was incredibly obvious in 2022. He should have retired/been dropped earlier but if he was it would have been Head replacing him not Khawaja

Ooh sorry. I'll fire my informant. But Warner's slide has been obvious and so was Finch's. You could've fit Usman in. He'd have been better than say Wade who was > Head surely.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Ooh sorry. I'll fire my informant. But Warner's slide has been obvious and so was Finch's. You could've fit Usman in. He'd have been better than say Wade who was > Head surely.

Warner's been consistently one of our best 2 performing ODI batsmen throughout, even when it looked he was sliding in Tests. He was never going to be replaced by Khawaja.

There just wasn't a place for Khawaja until Finch went off the boil in 2022 and by then he hadn't played white ball in a while and Head was better. It's that simple

 

[the big bambino]

Warner's been consistently one of our best 2 performing ODI batsmen throughout, even when it looked he was sliding in Tests. He was never going to be replaced by Khawaja.

There just wasn't a place for Khawaja until Finch went off the boil in 2022 and by then he hadn't played white ball in a while and Head was better. It's that simple

Just as simple to pick him surely? Besides jamodis is the time to experiment. You don't have to play your best team all the time.

 

[Ashes81]

I actually had Australia down for a SF place ahead of South Africa which looks a ridiculous call now.

There's been alot of discussion about the batting line up, about the likes of Stoinis playing, about Head being unfit etc.

But the major issue for me is that the top 4 of Warner, Marsh, Smith and Labuschagne have not performed.

In 2 games, the Aussies haven't reached 200 and none of the top 4 have made a 50. The middle order has then been exposed and hasn't been able to turn the innings around.

If the top order start getting runs, then the likes of Maxwell, Green, Stoinis, and Inglis are coming in after 30 odd overs not 20 odd. It's a completely different ball game then.

The top 4 need to fire now otherwise this WC is over for the Aussies.

 

[loterry1994]

I actually had Australia down for a SF place ahead of South Africa which looks a ridiculous call now.

There's been alot of discussion about the batting line up, about the likes of Stoinis playing, about Head being unfit etc.

But the major issue for me is that the top 4 of Warner, Marsh, Smith and Labuschagne have not performed.

In 2 games, the Aussies haven't reached 200 and none of the top 4 have made a 50. The middle order has then been exposed and hasn't been able to turn the innings around.

If the top order start getting runs, then the likes of Maxwell, Green, Stoinis, and Inglis are coming in after 30 odd overs not 20 odd. It's a completely different ball game then.

The top 4 need to fire now otherwise this WC is over for the Aussies.

Exactly people blaming the all rounders and the keepers down the order for the batting mess. But they’ve been coming in before the 20th over with barely a platform laid. Most teams are going to struggle in that situation

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Top 4 failing is no shock though. Warner is a pale shadow of his former self, Smith is gun but can't do it on his own, Labuschagne wasn't even near the squad till about 6 weeks ago and Marsh has always been hit and miss. The Aussie squad looks bizarre for a tournament in Asia with only one proper spinner who isn't that good anyway.

 

[Gob]

I dislike the idea of Marsh opening because it amplifies his biggest weakness which is corridor bowling with movement thus reducing his optimum output.

Has Wade retired from ODIs? He would actually be a better keeper option to both Inglis and Carey

Cummins does not hold a place in ODIs especially in the subcontinent

Stoinis is not an international cricketer