***Official** Malaysia Tri-Series

[silentstriker]

Not quite.

I meant he will get 50 before he retires.

 

[ClownSymonds]

I meant he will get 50 before he retires.

Oh, ok. Yes, I agree.

 

[Jono]

Great. Do you know anything about transportation arrangements? I'm a bit concerned about getting back from the Oval to the hotel area, since it is supposedly 30 minutes away, and it should be somewhat late by the end of the match. I'd also rather take public transportation to get there, since a taxi ride all that way might be a bit expensive.

Things are looking quite difficult for the batsmen out there. The scoring rate is fine for now, but a wicket looks just around the corner.

I was in KL a few months ago mate. A taxi won't be too much. Generally you 'agree' on a price with the driver before hand instead of using the meter.

 

[PY]

WI handing out some serious tap, if they maintain this for 10 overs without losing wickets then they'll be sitting pretty!

 

[Magrat Garlick]

WI handing out some serious tap, if they maintain this for 10 overs without losing wickets then they'll be sitting pretty!

Well, they could get into needing 108 off the last 26 overs with nine wickets in hand...

 

[ClownSymonds]

I was in KL a few months ago mate. A taxi won't be too much. Generally you 'agree' on a price with the driver before hand instead of using the meter.

Alright, thanks for the info.

Gayle's going well, but how long can it last? I figure Lara will go early once he comes in.

 

[alternative]

Its pretty cheap in KL, i was there few months ago.. Taxi's and stuff shouldn't be a problem at all.. Pratyush hope u have a good one there..

anyway Sachin what a gun..

 

[ClownSymonds]

Gayle gone, Lara shouldn't be far behind.

 

[kwigibo]

Anyone notice that the ad for video highlights on the cricinfo site features Gilchrist prominantly?

 

[ClownSymonds]

Anyone notice that the ad for video highlights on the cricinfo site features Gilchrist prominantly?

Haha, yeah, good catch. False advertising, I'd say.

 

[silentstriker]

310 against WI should be a defensible score. Please, don't let our bowlers get owned...again.

It must be something in the diet, that we can't produce decent fast bowlers...while 100 miles away Pakistan seems to produce one after another.

 

[silentstriker]

Irfan Pathan...another potential goes into the trash heap. And people wonder why I don't give any due to players with potential.

 

[adharcric]

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with Pathan right now. The form of the last ODI season has died. Munaf and Agarkar looked good, while RP Singh is talented but trying too much.

 

[adharcric]

Irfan Pathan...another potential goes into the trash heap. And people wonder why I don't give any due to players with potential.

Because you overreact to everything that happens to the Indian team?

 

[silentstriker]

Because you overreact to everything that happens to the Indian team?

Not really. I just have a base assumption that Indian fast bowling is rubbish, and someone has to prove that they are not rubbish. Others go from the assumption that Pathan is good, or Munaf or Sreesanth are good and just need time to develop and when they fail its because they didn't live up to some mythical potential that they supposedly had. I ask, if all these bowlers had potential, wouldn't at least one of them develop into a consistently decent bowler?

I mean what is it now: Agarkar, Zaheer Khan, Ashish Nehra, Balaji, Pathan, Munaf, Sreesanth (and I'm sure I'm missing a couple). They are all either proven to be rubbish, or in the process of proving to be rubbish.

At what point to do you take the stance: OK, I am not going to overreact with every fast bowler that comes into the team and call him the next Waqar or Wasim or Imran or even Kapil, until he shows that he is?

The hype is the same with the batting, though our batting has traditionally been superior to the bowling. I almost puked when they called Raina the 'next Sachin' before he had scored a half century. I mean, what the hell is that?

I have no problems giving people their dues if they prove that they aren't crap. I would LOVE to see a Wasim Akram or Waqar Younis from India.

 

[adharcric]

Not really. I just have a base assumption that Indian fast bowling is rubbish, and someone has to prove that they are not rubbish. Others go from the assumption that Pathan is good, or Munaf or Sreesanth are good and just need time to develop and when they fail its because they didn't live up to some mythical potential that they supposedly had. I ask, if all these bowlers had potential, wouldn't at least one of them develop into a consistently decent bowler?

I have no problems giving people their dues if they prove that they aren't crap. I would LOVE to see a Wasim Akram or Waqar Younis from India.

Realistically speaking, Irfan Pathan has been good so far as an ODI bowler. Munaf Patel has been good so far as a test bowler. Sreesanth has been pretty good in both roles. After that, it's potential and only that. Are you willing to accept any of that?

 

[adharcric]

I mean what is it now: Agarkar, Zaheer Khan, Ashish Nehra, Balaji, Pathan, Munaf, Sreesanth (and I'm sure I'm missing a couple). They are all either proven to be rubbish, or in the process of proving to be rubbish.

At what point to do you take the stance: OK, I am not going to overreact with every fast bowler that comes into the team and call him the next Waqar or Wasim or Imran or even Kapil, until he shows that he is?

Come on, now. You have the right to automatically declare someone a failed cricketer after watching them bowl in a series, when they haven't been bad? No one called Munaf or Sreesanth the next Waqar or Wasim or Imran. If you're talking about the Indian press, hold it back because we all know what kind of crap they come up with. Besides, people getting excited about promising bowlers is sinful and yet you labelling them as failures is perfectly alright, right?

 

[silentstriker]

Come on, now. You have the right to automatically declare someone a failed cricketer after watching them bowl in a series, when they haven't been bad? No one called Munaf or Sreesanth the next Waqar or Wasim or Imran. If you're talking about the Indian press, hold it back because we all know what kind of crap they come up with. Besides, people getting excited about promising bowlers is sinful and yet you labelling them as failures is perfectly alright, right?

Nope, I am saying they are failures until they stop failing.

 

[silentstriker]

Realistically speaking, Irfan Pathan has been good so far as an ODI bowler. Munaf Patel has been good so far as a test bowler. Sreesanth has been pretty good in both roles. After that, it's potential and only that. Are you willing to accept any of that?

They both have an average close to 30, so no they haven't been good bowlers so far. They've been workable, just a couple more in a long line of workable bowlers but nothing more (yet).

 

[adharcric]

Nope, I am saying they are failures until they stop failing.

How exactly have Munaf and Sreesanth already "failed"? Anyways, I've gotta get some sleep so catch up later on this issue. The match looks dead now ...

Regarding your above comment: are you saying that any new bowler with potential who averages 30 at the international level should be dropped and deemed a failure?