honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
wats the forecast like?
I love watching Dhoni, but he will be completely outclassed (unless the pitches are as flat as Keira Knightley).adharcric said:Actually, I think it should be pretty interesting. We get to see the in-form Dravid, returning Tendulkar and Dhoni (for the first time) against McGrath and Lee.
I'm fairly sure that Aus have chased down a lot more than 200 with Katich in the side and anchoring the innings.Great Birtannia said:We should have been playing Jaques for the last 12 months but noooooo let's persist with a bloke that is clearly not good enough for the Australian top six and scores his runs at a s/r that is only effective when you are chasing 200.
Erm, way to over-rate a tail end biffer.aussie said:Come on, thats way harsh of Katich, yea he isn't as aggressive as the other memebers of Australia's superb top 7, but is that really such a bad thing?. If you have one guy like him batting around shotguns like Gilly, Ponting, Martyn, Symo, Pup, Hussey & Lee who can play as the achor role that wont be a great problem, because even though i would rather Jaques more so than Hayden at the top in his own way Katich has done fairly well for Australia at the top of the order.
Lee's form with the bat in both test & ODI's since the ashes definately makes him a bit more than a tail end biffer.marc71178 said:Erm, way to over-rate a tail end biffer.
His a bit better than that. Batted extremely well over the past twelve months and was nigh (or nearly) faultless in defence against us at Edgbaston.marc71178 said:Erm, way to over-rate a tail end biffer.
You may say ignore Marto but of all the batsmen in the side over the last season his form in ODI's has been the least impressive but yet Katich is getting all the stick.adharcric said:Martyn ~ 26 @ 80 (ignore him for now).
I said ignore Martyn because his position is unrelated to Katich's. Katich opens and Martyn plays in the middle-order. Katich has Jacques and Hayden for competition ... Martyn has an all-rounder in Watson (who was injured for a while) and Hodge for competition.aussie said:You may say ignore Marto but of all the batsmen in the side over the last season his form in ODI's has been the least impressive but yet Katich is getting all the stick.
I'm keeping my expectations low for Dhoni, but I have hope that he'll get a taste of success. Now I can't mention that he's an intelligent batsman who will try to adjust his game because I know you can slap me in the face by bringing up a certain incident from Mumbai. Whatever happens with Dhoni, it'll surely reveal something about him.silentstriker said:I love watching Dhoni, but he will be completely outclassed (unless the pitches are as flat as Keira Knightley).
But this will be a great test for Tendulkar. Lets see how he copes. He has played McGrath well in the past, so we will see if that continues. Dravid on the other hand can't buy a run vs. McGrath, and this might be a good chance to get that problem squared away. He might be helped by the fact that McGrath is also returning from a long layoff and thus may be rusty.
But knowing McGrath, I wouldn't bet on that!
He might be a bit better than that, but to call him a "shotgun batsman" is a little overstating the player isn't it?TT Boy said:His a bit better than that. Batted extremely well over the past twelve months and was nigh (or nearly) faultless in defence against us at Edgbaston.
Uhh yeah. You aren't the only person to be a little surprised seeing Lee's name come up alongside Gilly, Ponting, Symonds and Hussey as the star shotgun batsmen of Australia. He's not a tailender but he does not belong in that list, period.marc71178 said:He might be a bit better than that, but to call him a "shotgun batsman" is a little overstating the player isn't it?
Didn't mean it that way, when i mentioned the shot gun 7 i should have separated Lee at the end, but when Lee does come in its normally is in the closing overs & based on his form last season he is as capable as all of those blokes of smoking it at the end.adharcric said:Uhh yeah. You aren't the only person to be a little surprised seeing Lee's name come up alongside Gilly, Ponting, Symonds and Hussey as the star shotgun batsmen of Australia. He's not a tailender but he does not belong in that list, period.
Not really, you really can't ignore him because over the last season out of all the top 7 batsmen he has been the least productive & yet people are giving Katich all the stick just because he isn't as aggressive as the rest.adharcric said:I said ignore Martyn because his position is unrelated to Katich's. Katich opens and Martyn plays in the middle-order. Katich has Jacques and Hayden for competition ... Martyn has an all-rounder in Watson (who was injured for a while) and Hodge for competition.
Well if someone used the word "shotgun batsman" then yes it is a bit OTT. Though I would not be surprised if Brett Lee tons up in a test match, something Symonds will never achieve.marc71178 said:He might be a bit better than that, but to call him a "shotgun batsman" is a little overstating the player isn't it?
Agree for the most part. My main point in showing those statistics was to highlight Katich's strike rate and the fact that Jacques or Hayden could contribute more at that spot. Just my opinion.aussie said:Not really, you really can't ignore him because over the last season out of all the top 7 batsmen he has been the least productive & yet people are giving Katich all the stick just because he isn't as aggressive as the rest.
Australia's batting is very versatile, Katich does have Jaques and Hayden as his main candidates for his spot but there are other options in Clarke whose record as an opener is very good & Cosgrove another one who has opened at lot in OD cricket for South Australia & Glamorgan this year, are other possibilities in that role as well. Martyn's challengers for the #4 spot would be Watson, Jaques because Jaques can bat in the middle order he did for Yorkshire for most of the county championship last leason & Cosgrove again who can bat in that #4 spot. I wont consider Hodge because he is a bit old & hasn't really dont that great in the ODI's he played, he is more of a test match candidate for Martyn's #4 spot.