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***Official*** IPL match discussion thread

ret

International Debutant
So you cant but pity the Shah Rukh Khans. What does the poor guy do. He hasn't a clue what to do when things go wrong and for sure he will have many people giving contrary advise/opinions.
yep, and it appears as if he did jump into things at first but then seems to have come to his senses and decided to hold back, which is sensible :)

SRK has the tendency to piss off ppl, even the usually graceful AB seems to be losing his patience with him .... Aamir Khan probably has decided to give SRK a taste of his own medicine if his recent blog is anything to go by .... last thing SRK needs is a rift with someone like Sourav in Bengal
 

MrHat

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Has been a mistake to make the youngsters skippers, there's a few cracking under the pressure :)
 

ret

International Debutant
No one present at the DY Patil Sports Academy just under three weeks ago could have thought of it as anything more than a huge upset. The Delhi Daredevils had journeyed west with four wins from their first five games and the label of likely tournament winners. The Mumbai Indians had barely left the starting block. After four straight losses and the loss of Harbhajan Singh to a slap-and-ban double-play, they had managed a victory at Eden Gardens. But with Sachin Tendulkar still nursing a groin injury, few gave them a chance against a Delhi side boasting Virender Sehwag's strokeplay and Glenn McGrath's precision.

In the event, one of Delhi's McGrath clones, Mohammad Asif, had a poor outing and cameos from Sanath Jaysuriya and Shaun Pollock helped Mumbai to 162. And though Sehwag came out intent on blasting his way to the target, wickets for Pollock and Ashish Nehra stemmed the angry tide. Once Sehwag fell, the decline was swift, with the last five wickets adding just 14 runs. Nehra and Pollock starred on the scoresheet, but the likes of Dominic Thornely, Dhawal Kulkarni and Rohan Raje had also done their bit in strangulating a line-up full of potential matchwinners.

At the time, the result was considered a blip. Looking back, it may be seen as a decisive fork in the road. Mumbai, confidence coursing through the veins after knocking off a top side, stitched together a six-match winning streak, ended only by a last-ball defeat to the King's XI Punjab. The Delhi slide encompassed three more losses before victory against the freefalling Deccan Chargers revived the team's hopes.

When the top three of Gautam Gambhir, Sehwag and Shikhar Dhawan click, Delhi look like they could pulverise anyone. Get them out fairly early though, and you're into a middle that's as fragile as Frank Bruno's chin. Dinesh Karthik and Manoj Tiwary haven't had many opportunities, while the overseas contingent - AB de Villiers, Shoaib Malik and Tilllakaratne Dilshan - haven't impressed much.

The bowling has been similarly top-heavy. McGrath and Farveez Maharoof have both been magnificent, but a clearly unfit Mohammad Asif has been one of the flops of the competition, conceding more than nine an over. And after bright starts, Rajat Bhatia and Yo Mahesh have gone for more than eight an over. Batsmen also appear to have worked out Pradeep Sangwan, one of the stars of India's Under-19 side.

Sehwag himself has been the worst culprit with the ball, and his 22-run over undoubtedly cost them the rain-affected game against Punjab after McGrath had once again provided the perfect start. And with Daniel Vettori now leading New Zealand in England, all the spin eggs are in Amit Mishra's basket. So far, he's proved up to the task, but how will he respond if Tendulkar or Jayasuriya take him on?

Mumbai have revived their campaign so beautifully because the load has been shared. Jayasuriya has reprised his mid-90s glory years with the bat, but there's also been sterling support from the likes of Abhishek Nayar and the now-departed Dwayne Bravo, one of four Mumbai bowlers to have at least 10 wickets in the competition.

With Tendulkar joining Jayasuriya at the top of the order, you could forgive most new-ball bowlers for losing sleep. But if anyone can stymie that Simon-and-Garfunkel combination, it's McGrath, who enjoyed considerable success against both at the highest level. His counterpart for the Indians, Pollock, will also be quietly confident of his chances against Delhi's marauding top three.

This isn't quite a quarter-final, but it's as close as the league will get to one. If Mumbai win, the remaining six league games will be of importance only in deciding the semi-final pairings. A Delhi triumph would push Mumbai to the brink. They would then need to beat the Rajasthan Royals at Fortress Jaipur (where no team has come close) and then see off the Bangalore Royal Challengers, in a rearranged fixture in Bangalore, to ease Delhi out of contention.

The match has extra spice because of the traditional cricket rivalry between the two cities. Mumbai have undoubtedly been Indian cricket's top dogs, but for two decades leading into the 1990s, Delhi were one of the teams that was a persistent thorn in the side. And after years of underachievement, last season's Ranji Trophy success suggests that cricket in the capital is on the upswing again.


After years of underachievement, last season's Ranji Trophy success suggests that cricket in Delhi is on the upswing again © Cricinfo Ltd


Ravi Shastri, who played his part in several of those '80s dogfights, is one of several experts who insist that Mumbai will be devilishly hard to beat with a home crowd behind them in the last four. They have to get there first though. Delhi have good reason to feel aggrieved about the rain that has brought some respite to a baking-hot city, but at least they know where they stand. Should Chennai lose at home to the table-topping Rajasthan in the early game on Saturday, Delhi will go into their fixture knowing that a win will pile the pressure on both the Chennai Super Kings and Mumbai, who finish off with fixtures away from home.

The Feroz Shah Kotla hasn't quite been a citadel - Chennai pulled off a last-ball win, and Punjab prevailed thanks to Duckworth and Lewis - but Delhi's batsmen have been a frightening proposition in familiar conditions. They need to unveil one more no-fear performance, and hope the bowlers don't bottle it like they did in the two losses that have pushed them to the precipice.

Then again, if Jayasuriya and Tendulkar turn up in smash-bang-wallop mode, all the bottles, lucky charms and incantations in the world won't help. Not even in the City of Djinns, not even with McGrath taking the new ball.
what a game on cards tomm :)
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
.... last thing SRK needs is a rift with someone like Sourav in Bengal
So Sourav should be allowed to perform like crap and still be paid millions, millions that belong to Shahurkh, which he earned by sheer hard work.

I dont understand why people assume that questioning Sourav's performance is going to piss off Bengal. That is clearly not the case.

PS :- That said, Shahrukh has nowhere said that he has any problem with Sourav, some people just like to throw up their own imaginations into the discussion, by making outlandish assumptions about both Shahrukh and Bengal.
 

ret

International Debutant
So Sourav should be allowed to perform like crap and still be paid millions, millions that belong to Shahurkh, which he earned by sheer hard work.

I dont understand why people assume that questioning Sourav's performance is going to piss off Bengal. That is clearly not the case.

PS :- That said, Shahrukh has nowhere said that he has any problem with Sourav, some people just like to throw up their own imaginations into the discussion, by making outlandish assumptions about both Shahrukh and Bengal.
dude, why don't you read the article below, get a hold of how this thread has shaped before troubling your fingers with typing .... and it will also spare us from your irrelevant stuff

News brewing that there is a rift in the KKR camp. Idiot Shahrukh Khan thinks he knows more about cricket and cricketing decisions than his team captain.
He also wants the coach to make all game related decisions from season 2 onwards. Looks like he may lose his icon player.

All is not well between SRK and Ganguly
i guess, my stand is pretty clear from one of my post

thats true but then the cricket boards do that as well .... doing that doesn't undermine a captain's role

if Ganguly is not doing well then sack him, i see little point in trying to minimize the power of a captain
 
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Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
That article has been discussed and already dismissed. So for you to still use that document as the basis of your stupid assumptions is simply idiotic.
 

ret

International Debutant
That article has been discussed and already dismissed. So for you to still use that document as the basis of your stupid assumptions is simply idiotic.
haven't I made myself clear on this in one of my posts?

and ofc i do believe that there is a minor rift and thats acknowledged by SRK too when he says that it's no more than whats common in a workplace .... mentioning that in the SMS tells me that there is no smoke without fire
but I m giving credit to SRK for holding back and writing that SMS and thus

yep, and it appears as if he did jump into things at first but then seems to have come to his senses and decided to hold back, which is sensible :)

SRK has the tendency to piss off ppl, even the usually graceful AB seems to be losing his patience with him .... Aamir Khan probably has decided to give SRK a taste of his own medicine if his recent blog is anything to go by .... last thing SRK needs is a rift with someone like Sourav in Benga
it's good that SRK held back coz getting into a rift, [minor or major / now or in future] with Sourav, who usually has great backing in Bengal is not a good idea

as far as I m concerned, my points are quite clear, it's appears to be you who is having a hard time coming to terms with them

let me give you a friendly advise, quoting and re-quoting my posts, picking out lines in isolation from the whole post, etc is not going to do you any favors and fulfill what ever agenda you may have .... though it gives me a few laughs
 

ret

International Debutant
Marsh is brimming with confidence .... Gilly and Gibbs, even though they got good scores, seem to try too much and get little in the powerplays, while it appears opposite with Marsh, who has his team at 23 already in 2 overs
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Marsh is brimming with confidence .... Gilly and Gibbs, even though they got good scores, seem to try too much and get little in the powerplays, while it appears opposite with Marsh, who has his team at 23 already in 2 overs
Well there's a rather huge difference in the quality of bowling they're facing.
 

Nate

You'll Never Walk Alone
Shaun Darsh is deadset the most attractive batsman in world cricket. My favourite batsman bar none.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
it's good that SRK held back coz getting into a rift, [minor or major / now or in future] with Sourav, who usually has great backing in Bengal is not a good idea
Sourav has the backing of Bengal and the whole nation as long as he performs well. You make it sound as if Bengal is going to be mad if Sourav gets dropped on the basis of performance and somehow SRK will face the wrath of Bengal if he decides to drop Sourav. That opinion of yours about Bengal is highly stupid and border line derogatory. I give Bengal much more credit than that.

If Sourav doesn't perform, according to the expection of KKR Franchise, then SRK has ,as the owner of KKR, full right to dismiss him. I dont reallt think what Bengal thinks, does and says, should matter as long as SRK handles such matters with respect and dignity, which, I have no doubt , he will.

SRK hasn't said or done anything that shows his disrespect for Sourav despite a poor showing from his team.
 

Nate

You'll Never Walk Alone
No-one caressssssss. Your arguement is pretty much the opposite of what this tournament is about. So one of you please take the higher ground and stop your bitching.
 

ret

International Debutant
Well there's a rather huge difference in the quality of bowling they're facing.
yep, along w/ fielding [RP dropped a difficult chance of Sanga, who is gunning now]

but i m pointing more towards the Hybad pair's inability to find gaps despite playing some handsome shots on 'hit me balls' against Marsh who disposed the bad balls well

Hybad after 6, 40 odd
Mohali after 6, 70 odd
 

MrHat

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Marsh plays with such a straight bat. Playing with Sanga you can't tell who is world class.
 

ret

International Debutant
Sourav has the backing of Bengal and the whole nation as long as he performs well. You make it sound as if Bengal is going to be mad if Sourav gets dropped on the basis of performance and somehow SRK will face the wrath of Bengal if he decides to drop Sourav. That opinion of yours about Bengal is highly stupid and border line derogatory. I give Bengal much more credit than that.
oh really 8-)

If Sourav doesn't perform, according to the expection of KKR Franchise, then SRK has ,as the owner of KKR, full right to dismiss him. I dont reallt think what Bengal thinks, does and says, should matter as long as SRK handles such matters with respect and dignity, which, I have no doubt , he will.

SRK hasn't said or done anything that shows his disrespect for Sourav despite a poor showing from his team.
as I said picking out lines from ppl's posts and not understanding everything in totality is a bad habit

thats true but then the cricket boards do that as well .... doing that doesn't undermine a captain's role

if Ganguly is not doing well then sack him, i see little point in trying to minimize the power of a captain
really, it's time you stop calling others posts stupid and idiotic and look at the mirror first :p

i guess, i have devoted more time than i should on your babble .... moving on
 
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