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**Official** India v Pakistan

mofo123

U19 12th Man
salman butt can not b dropped, this is wot i mean u all complain abt imran nazir and hasan raza and u r talking abt doing the same to salman one bad test and dont play him...its HIM who the future rests on right now and we need him in the team
 

Sehwag309

Banned
Arjun said:
I do have my doubts about the Test in Bangalore. The Indian team has a terrible record there, since the climate is very similar to places outside India, usually England or Australia. If the pitch offers more than a little bounce, it can be worrying. That said, there's no real quality in the Pakistani pace attack ot exploit these, save the erratic Sami.
U thinking Australian Test, aren't you. Inzamam will win the toss there for a change, if he bats 1st ' then we gonna think the same ole things which happened in Bangalore.

Indian didn't have a good record against Pak at Eden too, so lets see
 

shoot_me

School Boy/Girl Captain
mofo123 said:
salman butt can not b dropped, this is wot i mean u all complain abt imran nazir and hasan raza and u r talking abt doing the same to salman one bad test and dont play him...its HIM who the future rests on right now and we need him in the team
I agree. It's takes an idiot to drop a player who scored a 70 and a century in Australia just for failing in one test. If you're going to drop Salman Butt, drop Taufeeq Umar as well. Absolutely useless and it's clear that he will never become a great batsman. His record doesn't appear to be all that bad but that has a great deal to do with luck and out of the four innings Taufeeq has played in this series so far, Balaji has dismissed him all 4 times.
 

Unattainableguy

State 12th Man
Salman Butt was not dropped just because he had failed in the first test(Mohali) but also because how bad he had played in the VB series( one day matches after the test series in Australia)
 

dudeurfriend

School Boy/Girl Captain
Sehwag309 said:
Hmm

...They got it wrong

http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/test/future.html

Possible Series Outcome

SEE ATTACHED PICTURE
Well it was a well planned victory for indians... Pakistan really gave a good fight and they were literally on top when india was under a bit of pressure in the second inningsat 156 for 4 when vvs.lax was retired hurt.... Hats off to dinesh karthick and ever so dependable wall Dravid,They dragged India to a winning position and not to forget contributions from Sachin in the second innings... These things ensured some superb bowling efforts from Kumble,Bhajji and Balaji..... The match was evenly poised until the final day when India had the last laugh... Such a match augurs well for test cricket.... It was evenly contested match...
 

dudeurfriend

School Boy/Girl Captain
I thought both the team compostions were right but Pakistan really was weak in bowling department.... Khalil is not delivering his goods.... This was the ultimatedifference between the two teams.....
 

a10khan

School Boy/Girl Captain
mofo123 said:
well no not really...at test level his bowling stats rnt all that as he has bowled with the likes of wasim and waqar, shoaib etc...therefore hasnt been the main wicket taker...batting is realiable...to b honest i think ur being a tad harsh...
no he's not

in tests, abdur is a relief bowler at best. its sad that he might end up opening the bowlin along with sami in the next test.

he could be better but he doesnt works hard on his game. He is a much better batsman
though.
 

Deja moo

International Captain
FaaipDeOiad said:
Escaped? Pakistan had a big lead by the time they finally declared in the first test. You talk about it like they scraped home by blocking out the dying overs with 8 or 9 down in the fourth innings - they actually had a fair chance at winning the game it there was another day to play.
Except that theres only 5 days in a test.

There was only one team that could have won the game and thats India. The most Pak could have hoped for in that game was a draw ( which, to their credit, they did achieve).
 

Choora

State Regular
mofo123 said:
Let me b the first to day india did a gr8 job of getting pak out, and also the first to say pak did a lousy job of NOT getting out...lol but u gotta love the game the indians r just so strong at the moment maybe not the pace attack but batting and spin attack was too strong for pakistani players...for the next test id like to see salman butt in for taufeeq, keep shahid afridi opening. and i dont care if it isnt a spinners wicket get arshad khan in there for khalil its almost shamefull to call him test standard, i bowl better then him...no wait really! i do...
afridi
butt
younis
inzi
yoyo
kamal
razzaq
akmal
sami
arshad khan
kaneria

Hey mate , why sudden change of heart? even after countless debate you were NOT convinced that Asim was a much better player for test team than Malik, but now there seems to be no Malik in ur test side but Asim is in it.Well i'm glad :)

Also i'm glad to see Rana not in ur test team :)
 

Choora

State Regular
mofo123 said:
but rana is not a test quality player...im sorry to say his batting is better then his bowling
Something that i always maintained.

I like Rana's attitude, but as i have always said that just coz someone gives 100 percent doesn't mean he's qualified to play test matches.Rana will never be successful in test matches
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Sehwag309 said:
U thinking Australian Test, aren't you. Inzamam will win the toss there for a change, if he bats 1st ' then we gonna think the same ole things which happened in Bangalore.

Indian didn't have a good record against Pak at Eden too, so lets see
They've lost to Australia in 1998, they've lost to South Africa in 2000, they lost to Australia in 2004 and almost lost to the English in 2001, before rain cut in. It's the weather, and probably the pitch.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Your opinion of the selection for the India-A side? Good to see JP Yadav, Powar and Dhoni picked. Hopefully all three will make the playing XI. A spin-bowling alternative to Bahutule would be preferred- no point playing in the India-A side yet again- it's India Seniors or nothing- Amit Mishra just got six wickets against Jharkhand and is young, capable of batting and fielding well- he may be an immediate replacement for Kumble. Overall, a good side.
 

Choora

State Regular
SJS said:
By persisting with Afridi in the opening Pakistan is making one of the following presumptions/statements
1) If Sehwag can play aggressively and be successful then why not Afridi. (Well there is a huge huge difference in their games. The only similarity is their aggresssion)

2) If he gets a 59 with this kind of batting, he is preferable to others who average less.(He will not get 59 everytime)
!
The reasons are entirely different, Sehwag has nothing to do with Afridi's selection, and Afridi's 59 is not the lone factor for his continuation as an opener in the next test match.

Afridi was picked in the Calcutta coz Pak bowling limitations were exposed in first match, they clearly needed a 5th bowler so they opted for Afridi. Now the question was where can he be played? He surely can't replace a well set Asim Kamal at sixth slot, he is good enough as a 5th bowler only, he certainly can't be played as a regular bowler as that would only further weaken Pak bowling side!!

The only position where Afridi could have been accomodated was the opening one. He might not been an ideal opener but atleast in the nest match i would like to see him open the innings as Pakistan right now is struggling to find a decent opener and chop and change is not a remedy!


3) He is better than the alternatives.(It looks like that but Pakistan needs to look beyond the regular openers. I think Asim Kamal has the game to open. He is one of the few Pakistanis, besides the middle order veterans, who plays comfortably off the backfoot. And he has a wonderful temprament. It is certainly worth a try)
Before this series you were preferring Malik over Asim (though you can be excused coz u had not seen Asim then) but now you are trying to ruin Asim's career!!!
Asim is NOT an opener he is a lower order batsman, you can't ask anyone to open the side, that would be disasterous .Most importantly Asim was asked to bat one-down in a test match (as the coward Inzi doesn't wanna bat one down) and he fared poorly getting out cheaply in both innings. And guess what happened after that? the poor guy was dropped from the team all togeather on the basis of that lone match's performance.Asim said later that he has always batted lower down the order in his career and wasn't comfortable at one-down position.

My suggestion would be, don't mess up with Asim's carreer and his batting order. Its after a long time that Pakistan have a good batsman comming at number six slot.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Choora said:
Before this series you were preferring Malik over Asim (though you can be excused coz u had not seen Asim then) but now you are trying to ruin Asim's career!!!
Oh thanks for the caution ! I had actually made up my mind to order Asim Kamal to open. :sleep:
 

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