CasMcG24
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*Official* India Tour of England 2018
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CasMcG24
U19 Vice-Captain
Never truly understood the hate for Kohli a good player should not carry too much burden and just captain the team on the field and bat/bowl themselves... Everything else should be manged as separate and by other people.
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Nah, we won't even take wickets over there. It'll be a bloodbath even if Smith and Warner won't be there.
Cow Corner
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England Tests won't even feel like an away series - Kohli - ESPNcricinfo
England Tests won't even feel like an away series - Kohli
England Tests won't even feel like an away series - Kohli
If Trent Bridge is gonna be its usual self, a 5 seamer attack of Anderson, Broad, Curran, Woakes and Stokes would be extremely threatening. Albeit if India bat like they did in the second innings of the Lords test especially (conditions were not extremely difficult in terms of the match standard tbh) it might not take more than spells from Broad and Anderson
It's funny because before this series started, a pace attack with three all-rounders like Curran Stokes and Woakes would not have inspired me with much confidence at all based on their form and experience going into this massive series. Testament to how well they've all played when given the oppertunity to influence the game really.
It's funny because before this series started, a pace attack with three all-rounders like Curran Stokes and Woakes would not have inspired me with much confidence at all based on their form and experience going into this massive series. Testament to how well they've all played when given the oppertunity to influence the game really.
Starfighter
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There's no pitch on which five seamers are required. Ever. Unless one of them really ****s the bed.
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Haha India actually did this in SA earlier this year.
Starfighter
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So did SA in the same match. I thought it was tosh then too.
Howe_zat
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Stokes will either have a week off or come in for Curran, who has obviously played well but is 20 and will keep.
I'm not sure where I'm going with this, I guess my point is that there's nothing wrong with having Sam Curran in the freezer. There should always be something in the freezer.
I'm not sure where I'm going with this, I guess my point is that there's nothing wrong with having Sam Curran in the freezer. There should always be something in the freezer.
vic_orthdox
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When Rashid wasn't even used, they're going to be tempted to not pick one though.
Bijed
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The Amla 311*? Swann was playing in that one, but we left him out for the next test and went in with Pietersen as our frontline spinner
vic_orthdox
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That was at the stage of Amla's career where he'd just bat outside off stump to spinners and dare you to bowl at him, never miss the ball and get off strike all the time.
wpdavid
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I wonder when Stokes will have to face the ECB disciplinary committee.
Beyond that, I think you're probably right about Curran, even if it should really be Buttler who steps down; his role of specialist number 7 is looking increasingly redundant. Mind you, six bowlers would be a lot if Stokes did replace Buttler.
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wpdavid
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The 2003 match against SA at Headingley was another case. Five seamers because it was Headingly, and sure enough we lost by plenty.
If Stokes comes in then he comes in for Buttler if I was picking the team. Jennings dropped for Burns.
Stokes becomes an impact bowler option, Curran is the left arm impact. The 3 better bowlers Anderson, Woakes and Broad. Then you have a spin option.
Have to pick the best team for the opponent and I feel that's Stokes for Buttler and Burns for Jennings.
Stokes if I had my way would never play for England again. But seeing as he will I'd bring him in for Buttler.
Buttler is vice though despite being a "specialist" lower order bat and gash in the slips. So we will see what England do. Either way bare minimum Jennings gets dropped and either Buttler, Rashid or Curran makes way for Stokes.
I'm not keen on dropping Curran, could knock his confidence (and quite unfair) at such a young age. Easier to drop Buttler or rotate Rashid out. Depends what the conditions like before a ball is bowled. Imo anyone that gets dropped should stay in the squad with the group as they are playing well together.
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I'm starting to think the vice captain role doesn't really mean anything for England. I have no idea why Anderson didn't maintain it after the Winter, unless he didn't want it. Thought his experience would be a really good thing to have with a young and relatively untested captain. Then again, I'm sure his input into talking to the bowlers, fields , team talks etc, hasn't really changed much.
I think Buttler is vice captain because other than Cook he's the only other player in the team with recent captaincy experience for England. Vice captain of the ODI team, and captaining in the tour to Bangladesh a couple years ago. I think he's just seen as a bit of a leader figure by England. I don't think it will effect whether he will end up being axed from the team anyway; it hardly means much afterall.
Moonsorrow999
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I'd drop Jennings and Cook and start a new partnership. Cook is done but will probably get a huge knock when it's flat at The Oval and the sun comes out. Jennings is an absolute doughnut. Buttler is frustratingly being Buttler. None of the bowlers deserve dropping. Stokes' batting is very sporadic and he can have huge concentration problems. The only change I'd like is Mo for Rash to pack the batting incase India win the toss. Is Stokes' batting really worth a spot in the top 7?
That said the toss is huge. India would have probably won the last test had they won the toss. Obscenely different conditions. But Jimmy bowling like that in those conditions is simply unplayable.
As for India I think they should get rid of the dead weight. Their bowling has done well in these last two tests, especially since the toss in both tests haven't worked in their favour. I don't think Bumrah or Bhuvi would have improved things immensely despite Bhuvi being treated like an ATG on this forum. Definitely Vijay, Rahane and Karthik to go. But for whom, what options do they have in the squad? Maybe a few debuts would be great since there should be nothing to fear but some of these Indian batsman seem totally petrified and have no idea what to do. England bowled a lot of poor deliveries the other day as well as some absolute jaffers. The jaffers got wickets or nearly so and the bad balls got blocked. That shows it all.
That said the toss is huge. India would have probably won the last test had they won the toss. Obscenely different conditions. But Jimmy bowling like that in those conditions is simply unplayable.
As for India I think they should get rid of the dead weight. Their bowling has done well in these last two tests, especially since the toss in both tests haven't worked in their favour. I don't think Bumrah or Bhuvi would have improved things immensely despite Bhuvi being treated like an ATG on this forum. Definitely Vijay, Rahane and Karthik to go. But for whom, what options do they have in the squad? Maybe a few debuts would be great since there should be nothing to fear but some of these Indian batsman seem totally petrified and have no idea what to do. England bowled a lot of poor deliveries the other day as well as some absolute jaffers. The jaffers got wickets or nearly so and the bad balls got blocked. That shows it all.
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