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*Official* India Tour of England 2018

Mr Miyagi

Mr Miyagi

Banned
Pratters said:
I have thought long and hard about three spinners on drier pitches. However, the issue with that is that we won't have any one as first change seamer, which is important as it's not a subcontinent wicket. So we would have to go with three seamers or two seamers and Hardik with two spinners in both cases.
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Ash can bat, so what you're saying is defensible.

But will he offer much on the pitches that aren't turning big?

If you play Hardik and Ash on a pitch that is not turning, I fear while the batting is well balanced with a 6 and 8 who can bat well enough combined, the attack of Kuldeep is a gamble with only 2 frontline seamers when India has 4 to choose from (5 before BK's injury).

I am not convinced.

We don't know what the groundsmen or the cloud cover is going to do. We don't even know what this batch of Dukes balls will be like. We only have past years to go by.
 
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R!TTER

State Regular
Pratters said:
I have thought long and hard about three spinners on drier pitches. However, the issue with that is that we won't have any one as first change seamer, which is important as it's not a subcontinent wicket. So we would have to go with three seamers or two seamers and Hardik with two spinners in both cases.
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That's not such a bad option actually, since all 3 can bat. But then it'd have to be really dry, like Oval 1976 IIRC? The outfield must also be flaky to aid reverse swing, that way Yadav, Shami or Sharma could be used in short bursts with the old ball. Give them a long first spell & control the innings with spinners. It's really left field though, since we can't afford a bad day from any of the spinners.
 
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Pratters

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Pratters said:
I have thought long and hard about three spinners on drier pitches. However, the issue with that is that we won't have any one as first change seamer, which is important as it's not a subcontinent wicket. So we would have to go with three seamers or two seamers and Hardik with two spinners in both cases.
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Thinking more, we have played three spinners in England in late summer in 71 etc so it's not completely unreasonable. Both Ashwin and Kuldeep can get good bounce off the newish balls.
 
Mr Miyagi

Mr Miyagi

Banned
R!TTER said:
That's not such a bad option actually, since all 3 can bat. But then it;d have to be really dry, like Oval 1976 IIRC? The outfield must also be flaky to aid reverse swing, that way Yadav, Shami or Sharma could be used in short bursts with the old ball. Give them a long first spell & control the innings with spinners. That's really left field though, we also can't afford a bad day from any of the spinners.
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You really think England groundsmen will give you something that good for the spinners for a visiting India team in 2018?

I am really not sure on this.
 
Pratters

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
My team for the first test:

Vijay
Rahul
Nair
Kohli
Rahane
Karthik
Jadeja
Ashwin
Kuldeep
Ishant
Yadav

A bit different from usual line ups.
 
Borges

Borges

International Regular
Every one doctors pitches. It is only the extent to which they do it, and the extent to which they profess innocence that varies.
 
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R!TTER

State Regular
Mr Miyagi said:
You really think England groundsmen will give you something that good for the spinners for a visiting India team in 2018?

I am really not sure on this.
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They won't, but we're hearing this is the worst dry spell in a long time. If anything dead grass, eventually, would make it a batter's paradise. It all depends on what the captain wants & how the groundsmen deliver, we've also seen in the past that sometimes conditions don't let the curator do what they please.
 
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Arachnodouche

International Captain
Why is Pandya being thrown to the wolves around these parts? The guy hasn't done so badly has he? A gamble but hardly a fraud.

Are all of these around? This looks like a solid enough side for mine.

Dhawan
Vijay
Rahul
Kohli
Rahane
Karthik
Pandya
Ashwin
Ishant
Umesh
Kuldeep

EDIT: I also want to see Ashwin given a full series run abroad before discarding him as a liability outside India for good. Not his biggest fan but the guy's record deserves, even demands, that much.
 
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Mr Miyagi

Mr Miyagi

Banned
Arachnodouche said:
Why is Pandya being thrown to the wolves around these parts? The guy hasn't done so badly has he? A gamble but hardly a fraud.

Are all of these around? This looks like a solid enough side for mine.

Dhawan
Vijay
Rahul
Kohli
Rahane
Karthik
Pandya
Ashwin
Ishant
Umesh
Kuldeep
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Batting is great, but it is only two frontline seamers. This is England not India.

Weather aside, I am not convinced the groundsmen will give you spinning tracks.
 
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Singh767

School Boy/Girl Captain
It is crazy here, in the last 7 weeks I can only remember a 30 minute spell of rain. Every park and garden the grass has turned from green to yellow! And I believe the forecast is the same for a while
 
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R!TTER

State Regular
Niall said:
Shami was a shambles last time round, can Bumrah be any worse?
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Yes, to answer the obvious. That's why we have Shane Keith Yadav i.e. Kuldeep Yadav (because there's another Yadav so don't mix them up) to unleash on the English, shores.
 
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