Mr Mxyzptlk
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Spotted this on Cricinfo just now...Mr Mxyzptlk said:
Highest ODI average (75+ matches):
MG Bevan - 53.58
RR Sarwan - 47.32
IVA Richards - 47.00
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***Official*** India in West Indies
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Highest ODI average (75+ matches):
MG Bevan - 53.58
RR Sarwan - 47.32
IVA Richards - 47.00
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Good last 3 posts Liam, agree with them all.
First off that was what I was trying to say, WI just outplayed India, and yes they'll take great confidence into the tests but no those ODI losses dont automatically mean they lost because of being away from home.
And yes Sarwan is criminally underrated in ODIs. Gun. Deserved Super Series selection, though thats mickey mouse obviously but its the principle.
First off that was what I was trying to say, WI just outplayed India, and yes they'll take great confidence into the tests but no those ODI losses dont automatically mean they lost because of being away from home.
And yes Sarwan is criminally underrated in ODIs. Gun. Deserved Super Series selection, though thats mickey mouse obviously but its the principle.
garage flower
State Vice-Captain
I've been wondering whether Collins is in the selectors' thinking for the tests having missed out on this series, but like you say there's some genuine competition now and I'd guess that the 4 seamers on show in the ODIs will all start the 1st test. Bravo, presumably, will bat at 6 with Ganga coming in to open. Not sure about the 'keeper.Mr Mxyzptlk said:
With regard to this one day success, I do a get sense that Windies have finally made significant strides rather than the usual misleading step forward that is invariably followed by two giant steps back.
Big plus points inclue:
- a quartet of seam bowlers performing consistently, with Collins and possibly Richard Kelly to add to the mix before the World Cup
- a number of genuine all-round options emerging in Samuels, Smith and Bravo, to add to the proven all-round abilities of Gayle.
- fielding has been excellent for 3 games in a row, which is virtually unheard!
Add the 4 world class batsmen we already knew about and the only glaring issue still unresolved is an opening partner for Gayle (cue a Chattergoon century on Sunday!).
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Jono said:
I'm sorry but when a side consistantly gets beaten away, while consistently winning at home....its more than just outplayed. Unless everyone just becomes so much better when facing India away all of a sudden. India have a problem winning overseas series...this is not a new problem. It's not that everytime they go, they play great but just get outplayed. That might explain one or two series, but not 60 years of test cricket.
2-0 Windies in the tests for me.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Oh, I certainly would be very happy if they won. However, since the Mumbai test, I've really lost hope in the Indian test team.adharcric said:I'm still backing my team. Crazy optimist.
adharcric
International Coach
The spotlight is on two of the young stars of Indian cricket: Irfan Pathan and Mahendra Singh Dhoni. Coming in, Pathan was among the leading one-day bowlers and all-rounders in the world and Dhoni's place among one-day batsmen had skyrocketed. While Pathan has sprayed the ball all over the place in the last four matches, Dhoni has been tied down by the West Indian spinners and rendered useless. A real opportunity awaits them in the four-test series. While Pathan hasn't been able to replicate his one-day consistency in the longer version, Dhoni's brief test career is largely tainted by memories of the Mumbai debacle. Here lies a chance for the two to exhibit their class.
adharcric
International Coach
Lara is a certainty in what should be a special occasion at his home ground. The rest of the lineup seems fine, but I would play Taylor ahead of Bradshaw because Bradshaw has already proven himself.roseboy64 said:
Gayle, Chattergoon, Samuels, Lara*, Hinds, Bravo, Smith, Baugh+, Taylor, Mohammed, Collymore
adharcric
International Coach
This is my XI for India.
R Uthappa, R Dravid, S Raina, M Kaif, V Rao, MS Dhoni, I Pathan, R Powar, H Singh, S Sreesanth, RP Singh
Yuvraj needs to be fully fit for the tests. Agarkar is injured it seems. Munaf should concentrate on tests and get ready for the warmup in a few days. Sreesanth needs to regain his rythm. Raina needs runs and Uthappa should've opened a while ago. This should be Venugopal Rao's final chance to salvage his one-day career; I don't think he'll make it to the tri-series in Sri Lanka if Rohit Sharma shines or Sachin returns. Dhoni or Pathan should come up the order if possible.
R Uthappa, R Dravid, S Raina, M Kaif, V Rao, MS Dhoni, I Pathan, R Powar, H Singh, S Sreesanth, RP Singh
Yuvraj needs to be fully fit for the tests. Agarkar is injured it seems. Munaf should concentrate on tests and get ready for the warmup in a few days. Sreesanth needs to regain his rythm. Raina needs runs and Uthappa should've opened a while ago. This should be Venugopal Rao's final chance to salvage his one-day career; I don't think he'll make it to the tri-series in Sri Lanka if Rohit Sharma shines or Sachin returns. Dhoni or Pathan should come up the order if possible.
Nate
You'll Never Walk Alone
Gayle
Samuels
Sarwan
Lara
Chanderpaul
Smith
Bravo
Baugh
Bradshaw
Edwards
Collymore
...seems like the strongest side to me. I love watching Collins bowl, and Taylor seems extremely promising. But there doesn`t seem to be a place for them at the moment. Then there`s Dave.
Samuels
Sarwan
Lara
Chanderpaul
Smith
Bravo
Baugh
Bradshaw
Edwards
Collymore
...seems like the strongest side to me. I love watching Collins bowl, and Taylor seems extremely promising. But there doesn`t seem to be a place for them at the moment. Then there`s Dave.
Mr Mxyzptlk
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What does India's history have to do with the FACT that they were outplayed by the West Indies in this series? Absolutely nothing.silentstriker said:
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Agree with you Liam, I just hate to say it, but the truth remains that india were outplayed and beaten by a better team.. thats all...
silentstriker
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Because of the FACT that India get 'outplayed' everytime they leave the subcontient, and 'outplay' virtually everyone within the subcontinent.Mr Mxyzptlk said:
Which means the problem is more with India than with their opponents.
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MARC will be happy with this...
AA picks up a wicket with his first ball of the match...
AA picks up a wicket with his first ball of the match...
Mr Mxyzptlk
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That not true at all. India plays poor outside of the subcontinent often. They don't often get outplayed in ODIs. The series was competitve. The West Indies was just the better team. Had the West Indies played as well as they have in this series on the subcontinent, they probably would have gone very close to winning it anyway, if not achieving the same result.silentstriker said:
Is it so hard to believe that the West Indies have played well, rather than India have played poorly enough to make the West Indies look good. Honestly, have you even watched the series?
