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[silentstriker]

I distinctly remember him doing it in consecutive balls against England. But let's not let facts get in the way of a rant where one is preaching to the choir.

Munaf Patel bowled two consecutive reverse swinging yorkers at over 90mph in England? If that is the case, then he is choosing for some reason not to do it in any Indian international match, and thats worse.

Haven't you cried about Indian pace only a few days back anyway?

Yes. When it comes to Indian pace, my crying is constant.


Indian Pace Bowler= A moment of respectability followed by a decade of sub-mediocrity.

 

[adharcric]

Without being swayed by the odd good spell or the odd bad one, one can say that of the new comers taken on this tour Munaf and Sreesanth have easily the most talent.

Munaf bowls a very consistent line and length and if someone compared him to McGrath somewhere here it was only to compliment him on his terrific consistency of bowling in the 'corridor'

Sreesanth bowls very spiritidly and is aggressive without letting his aggression make him bowl rubbish as some Indian and Sri Lankan bowlers tend to do. He may not have bowled very well on this tour but overall he has been a revelation because he was the least hyped of the youngsters till he played for India.

VRV has recieved far too much hype. He does bowl faster than others but bowls tripe far too often and doesnt seem to be a thinking bowler. He appears to just come in and bowl. Of all the youngsters seen this season (including RP Singh) he has been the most disappointing.

Agreed. I still think VRV might have a bright future but the "non-thinking bowler" problem worries me as well.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Pathan and VRV out. Sreesanth and Harbhajan in.

Bradshaw out. Marlon Samuels in.

Play hoped to start at 12:30pm.

 

[adharcric]

Silentstriker, you watching Munaf bowl? Dare tell me this isn't impressive stuff ..

 

[silentstriker]

Silentstriker, you watching Munaf bowl? Dare tell me this isn't impressive stuff ..

They are both bowling well. I wouldn't call it 'impressive'. I'll call it impressive when they take twenty wickets in a test, or skittle the WI out for 150. I said our bowlers cant take 20 wickets in a test, and they haven't yet. TBH they would have had one day not been rained out last test, but they still haven't done it.

 

[silentstriker]

Well Ganga won't be able to have kids anymore after that.

 

[superkingdave]

Chris Gayle, what a shot! crazy town

 

[marc71178]

Risky move playing only 2 seamers - can any of the batsmen bowl medium pace?

 

[adharcric]

Risky move playing only 2 seamers - can any of the batsmen bowl medium pace?

The only seamer who has made a difference is Munaf Patel, so it doesn't really matter. VRV, Pathan and Sreesanth haven't done much of note, it's been Munaf and the spinners and that's what we're counting on this time too.

 

[silentstriker]

Risky move playing only 2 seamers - can any of the batsmen bowl medium pace?

No, no one can. Gangly could bowl sorta-medium-kinda-slow pace, but thats it. We have a bunch of part time spinners though (sehwag, yuvraj).


Unless Dravid has a bowl....and it might come to that. The reason I have a bad feeling is because Munaf doesn't look to be in a good enough shape to bowl a lot of overs....so we're going to see lots of spin even with the newer ball.

 

[silentstriker]

So who said we were bowling impressively again?

 

[silentstriker]

The only seamer who has made a difference is Munaf Patel, so it doesn't really matter. VRV, Pathan and Sreesanth haven't done much of note, it's been Munaf and the spinners and that's what we're counting on this time too.

And Harbhajan is 3 overs for 21 runs. Still think it doesn't matter?

 

[superkingdave]

I repeat Chris Gayle = crazy town

 

[Rajeev]

Risky move playing only 2 seamers - can any of the batsmen bowl medium pace?

Dravid was hoping to win another toss, but seems the plan has backfired

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

So who said we were bowling impressively again?

What does the bowling now have to do with the bowling earlier on, which was clearly impressive? Impressive bowling doesn't always bring wickets.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

And Harbhajan is 3 overs for 21 runs. Still think it doesn't matter?

You're extremely quick to rubbish bowlers. You give a guy 3 overs in a Test match before you basically write him off?

No less, 3 overs by a spinner in the 1st innings on the first day.

 

[silentstriker]

What does the bowling now have to do with the bowling earlier on, which was clearly impressive? Impressive bowling doesn't always bring wickets.

Because it proves my point that Indian bowlers, though bowling well in patches, can never (or very rarely) sustain it over any length of time. And earlier, I did say that they were bowling well even if they didn't get wickets.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Because it proves my point that Indian bowlers, though bowling well in patches, can never (or very rarely) sustain it over any length of time. And earlier, I did say that they were bowling well even if they didn't get wickets.

And still I ask, how does the quality of bowler affect whether or not he bowled impressively earlier? Adam Sanford has bowled impressively before, but he's still rubbish. His rubbishness doesn't take away his impressive bowling spells though. He'll always have those one or two to cherish at the end of his career.

Silentstriker, you watching Munaf bowl? Dare tell me this isn't impressive stuff ..

Where did he say anything other than they were bowling well at the time?

 

[silentstriker]

Where did he say anything other than they were bowling well at the time?

And I admitted that they were bowling well. And then I furthur commented that they wouldn't be able to sustain that for the rest of my match.

Since adharcric, by making that post, was implying that my assessment of the quality of Indian bowling attack was in error, I added that although they were bowling well now, they would not be doing it throughout the match.

If, on the other hand, it was not his intention to challenge my assessment of the Indian bowlers, then my comment still stands on its own in simply that they were bowling well, but that it would not continue. I've been saying from the beginning that Indian bowlers can look OK for a little bit, and then fall into crapiness soon after.

 

[silentstriker]

What the hell? An off stump uprooted and flipping through the air of a delivery from an Indian fast bowler? Am I in the twilight zone? Literally, it just FLEW out of the ground. The stumps weren't in tight enough, me thinks. Normally, when an Indian fast bowlers bowls a batsman, the bails gently fall off and if you look closely, one of the stumps is slightly out of order at an angle.

Anyway, good bowling rewarded for Munaf. Keep it up.