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***Official*** India in Pakistan

GotSpin

Hall of Fame Member
honestbharani said:
off topic:

no, but I have been there since day 1. We were actually at PWS, the wrestling site. But they were hacked way too often and after a bit of misunderstanding, we came out and now have our own boards. WE have been around since May 2003. We have two brands and two farm leagues. :) And one of our brands juz had its 100th episode.


BTW, ur suggestion is good, but I guess there wasn't anyway to do it. I will put it across to our owner though.
I'll register and have a gander- used to own my own e-fed a few years back as well. Do you have msn?
 
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SJS

Hall of Fame Member
adharcric said:
What do you guys think for the Karachi Test. I'd go for this team.

V. Sehwag
R. Dravid
V.V.S. Laxman
S. Tendulkar
S. Ganguly
Y. Singh
M. Dhoni
I. Pathan
A. Kumble
Z. Khan
R. P. Singh

Harbhajan can be included as the 5th bowler in place of Ganguly, but he hasn't done anything in this series and we might need the batting depth in Karachi. Hopefully the 3-pronged seam attack works well.
Quite Likely.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
How about this team? It agrees with the one posted earler but for one position
  • Sehwag
  • Gambhir
  • Laxman
  • Tendulkar
  • Dravid (C)
  • Dhoni (WK)
  • Irfan (LMF)
  • Harbhajan (OB)
  • Zaheer (LFM)
  • Kumble (LB)
  • RP Singh (LFM)
Agreed, Harbhajan hasn't done much, but frankly, he's just had a bad match on a pitch where NOBODY looked like taking 10 wickets, and he is India's best bowler after Kumble. A question mark may be raised about the selection of the opener, but Yuvraj didn't do better in the one chance he got, and that position is too difficult to tamper with. The fifth bowler helped the Indians take 18 wickets in this match, so it's worth a go once again. It will be very similar in composition to the team the Pakistanis are most likely to field, with five bowling options and batting till seven, unless Razzaq gets another match.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Arjun said:
How about this team? It agrees with the one posted earler but for one position
  • Sehwag
  • Gambhir
  • Laxman
  • Tendulkar
  • Dravid (C)
  • Dhoni (WK)
  • Irfan (LMF)
  • Harbhajan (OB)
  • Zaheer (LFM)
  • Kumble (LB)
  • RP Singh (LFM)
Agreed, Harbhajan hasn't done much, but frankly, he's just had a bad match on a pitch where NOBODY looked like taking 10 wickets, and he is India's best bowler after Kumble. A question mark may be raised about the selection of the opener, but Yuvraj didn't do better in the one chance he got, and that position is too difficult to tamper with. The fifth bowler helped the Indians take 18 wickets in this match, so it's worth a go once again. It will be very similar in composition to the team the Pakistanis are most likely to field, with five bowling options and batting till seven, unless Razzaq gets another match.
It is more or less the same team and I am with Pratyush and others here. If Dravid is comfortable opening, then India should stick to the 5-5-1 combination that they used in this match. Either one of Gambhir/Jaffer/Yuvraj/Ganguly can be picked depending on form and conditions. And on a really decent bowling track, India CAN go in with 4 bowlers and play the extra batter.
 

pug

U19 Vice-Captain
Don't want to jinx india or anything but if we get a fast pitch and Shoaib and co destroy the Indian batting line-up, some people are going to look extremely silly.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
adharcric said:
What do you guys think for the Karachi Test. I'd go for this team.

V. Sehwag
R. Dravid
V.V.S. Laxman
S. Tendulkar
S. Ganguly
Y. Singh
M. Dhoni
I. Pathan
A. Kumble
Z. Khan
R. P. Singh

Harbhajan can be included as the 5th bowler in place of Ganguly, but he hasn't done anything in this series and we might need the batting depth in Karachi. Hopefully the 3-pronged seam attack works well.
I dont think we need to drop the fifth bowler now for a middle order batsman. If something needs to be changed in the batting orer then it has to be the opener. Dravid should go back to his no.3 position and let Gambir/Jaffer open with Sehwag. If at all Dravid decides to open then IMO India should go with 5 bowlers.

Also, If Irfan continues to bowl like this then I am afraid his place as a bowler should be questioned.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Sanz said:
I dont think we need to drop the fifth bowler now for a middle order batsman. If something needs to be changed in the batting orer then it has to be the opener. Dravid should go back to his no.3 position and let Gambir/Jaffer open with Sehwag. If at all Dravid decides to open then IMO India should go with 5 bowlers.

Also, If Irfan continues to bowl like this then I am afraid his place as a bowler should be questioned.
Perhaps in the long run Dravid should return, but there is no way he won't open here ... after two centuries as opener (albeit on a dead pitch), why would they mess with success. Pathan bowled much better yesterday, and his batting is a huge consideration. While Harbhajan still remains one of our strike bowlers, if we get a grassy pitch that helps fast bowlers in Karachi, I think we should go in with Kumble and the 3-pronged lefty-seam attack, with Ganguly and Sehwag complimenting seam and spin. Really, Ganguly wasn't utilized well enough in the first test despite bowling decently.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Sanz said:
Also, If Irfan continues to bowl like this then I am afraid his place as a bowler should be questioned.
in all fairness to pathan, its not like any of the other bowlers on either side have looked like getting people out.
 

Fusion

Global Moderator
aussie said:
in all fairness to pathan, its not like any of the other bowlers on either side have looked like getting people out.
Well...I thought Dhoni and Yunis looked VERY dangerous! :cool:
 
India team

Dravid
Sehwag
Lax
Tend
Yuvraj
Dhoni
Pathan
Khan
Kumble
Kumble
RPS


Pak

Farhat
Butt
Younis
Yousuf
Inzi/Faisal
Afridi
Akmal
Akhtar
Rana
Asif
Danish
 

yohanna

Banned
honestbharani said:
Back to topic....


Most cricket people in Pakistan AND the Pak media are of the firm opinion that Inzy is the man who wants flat tracks. I even read a report in one of the Indian dailies recently which quoted a Pak newspaper reporting that Inzy, MoYo and a few others are the guys who have been leading the campaign for flat tracks at home, not just against India but basically against everyone. .
Inzi was very vocal before the start of the series about getting bouncy wkts.I'm not sure why would Inzi make a clown of himself by repeatidly asking for bouncy wkts yet making sure that the wkt were made batting paradise?

How much Inzi and Woolmer were responsible for all the pitch mess is difficult to know really, but i do think that slightly better pitches would have been prepared had Inzi and Bob shown some guts.
 

Fusion

Global Moderator
yohanna said:
Inzi was very vocal before the start of the series about getting bouncy wkts.I'm not sure why would Inzi make a clown of himself by repeatidly asking for bouncy wkts yet making sure that the wkt were made batting paradise?

How much Inzi and Woolmer were responsible for all the pitch mess is difficult to know really, but i do think that slightly better pitches would have been prepared had Inzi and Bob shown some guts.
While we can only speculate as to who's responsible for the pitch preparation, I firmly believe that it was a case of bad judgement that caused them to be so flat. I think Inzi/Woolmer wanted the same type of pitches that they got for the England series. However, all the parties involved (including the groundsmen, Inzi etc) did not take weather into consideration and the frankly were inept in creating the type of pitches they wanted. The result is the roads that we've seen so far. I don't believe at all that Inzi/Woolmer would've wanted pitches THIS flat. That goes against all logic.
 

yohanna

Banned
Fusion said:
While we can only speculate as to who's responsible for the pitch preparation, I firmly believe that it was a case of bad judgement that caused them to be so flat. I think Inzi/Woolmer wanted the same type of pitches that they got for the England series. .
Can you tell me as to how much the current pitches are different from the pitches prepared for England series?
 

Fusion

Global Moderator
yohanna said:
Can you tell me as to how much the current pitches are different from the pitches prepared for England series?
Are you seriously implying that they're not that much different? Sure the England series pitches were not exactly Perth material, but they were not the graveyard for bowling that these ones are. I still believe that the way the pitches turned out for the Pak/Ind series were not part of the original intent. Of course I have no firm proof of that (except to believe the statements of Inzi and Woolmer), but I take issue with those on this board that have suggested that Pak deliberately wanted the pitches to be this flat!
 
I think Karachi test wkt will be better than the one we have seen in Lahore and Faisalabad, but only a bit better. With the mounting pressure on Inzi and Bob, they will have to give in and will have to agree to a pitch that has some support for the bowlers.

India should really go into the match with 5 bowlers, as both Pathan and Dhoni are good enough to tackle Pak bowlers with ease, so there is no need for a sixth specialist batsmen.A five man bowling attack on a wkt with some life is capable of getting 20 Pakistan wkt.

Hopefully Karachi wkt will produce a result and the better team in India will be victorious.
 

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