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***Official*** India in Pakistan
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exactly! what inzy is claiming is bullcrap...he tried to circumvent a rule of the game, the indians brought this to the umpire's attention by appealing which was exactly the right thing to do and the umpire gave him out....he's just got to live with it and stop whining about it...."spirit of the game" is this vague phrase that has been used to describe a lot of things over the years and most of it is ridiculous....bowling a beamer is against the spirit of the game, so is deliberately slowing down the game and so is racially abusing an opponent....this doesn't come in the same ballpark....marc71178 said:
cricketboy29
International Regular
Too freakin' trueSanz said:
and you have no idea how much it pains me to say that
Inzi dismissal is once again due to Inzi's lack of effort. He stroked the ball, tried a single and when it wasn't there just stood there on the pitch. Never tried to get back into his crease while he had enough time. Don't know why he is so lazy? I always thought he never did justice to himself with the amount of talent he has. Before becoming the captain, he never even did justice to his batting. I love the way he plays and specially showing no signs of panic even in a pressure cooker situation but he needs to move a little bit fast. As being against the spirit of the game, we did the same to Tendulkar in his incident with Shoaib when Pakistan toured India. So these things happen by both sides, and yes I think they are against the spirit of the game. In this case it was much too stupid on the part of Inzi and he is a captain so can't claim he doesn't understand the rule. It happened to him against England and that was absolutely not out but here it is his own fault.
"Flintoff would struggle to make the Indian test team as a batsman alone (well he wouldn't be a definite, that's for sure), however he'd walk straight into the test team as a bowler and become the leader of our attack."
Flinty is a very good batter and if Vaughn did not run him rugged he would be an even better bat and I do think he could walk into most teams as a batter alone. As for bowling well I am pretty certain Sami could walk into Indian bowling line up.
This is not taking anything away from Irfan he is a very good prospect to be sure and his batting has improved tremendously but I doubt he could walk into many teams as a batter or as a bowler whereas Freddy would IMO.
Flinty is a very good batter and if Vaughn did not run him rugged he would be an even better bat and I do think he could walk into most teams as a batter alone. As for bowling well I am pretty certain Sami could walk into Indian bowling line up.
This is not taking anything away from Irfan he is a very good prospect to be sure and his batting has improved tremendously but I doubt he could walk into many teams as a batter or as a bowler whereas Freddy would IMO.
adharcric
International Coach
Regardless of whose fault it is that Flintoff isn't as good as he should be with the bat right now, he wouldn't make the Indian team as a pure batsman. I'd take an in-form Yuvraj over Flintoff, batting-wise. I rate Freddie very highly as a bowler though, he'd easily become the strike bowler of the Indian attack and would be good enough to become a strike bowler for every attack in the world. Pathan would struggle (more or less) to make the Aussie, Pakistani, South African and English pace attacks. Pathan is quite some distance behind Flintoff as an all-rounder, though I must say Pathan is turning into more of a batting all-rounder these days. Making big scores is fine, but he needs to take wickets for India.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Flintoff over Yuvraj on CURRENT form. No thank you. And as for the past 3 years, Yuvraj HASN'T been a part of the Indian side over the past 3 years. And even Geraint Jones would replace Ganguly given his form over the last two years. He was only there because he was captain. There are better players than him in India itself.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
lol, I reckon he is better than the Ganguly of the last two years (that is, before his current resurrection.)
On another note, Sourav seems to be in good nick now. But he HAS to do something about getting out in the 30s. That is worse than getting out in single figures, in some ways.
On another note, Sourav seems to be in good nick now. But he HAS to do something about getting out in the 30s. That is worse than getting out in single figures, in some ways.
alternative
Cricket Web Content Updater
Very true that Sourav is getting some of his form back, he has played some good first class matches, and even in the international level he has shown that he can still play his strokes, as he rightly showed in the Karachi test... Its just matter of time, till he starts performing..honestbharani said:
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
sounds like 50-50 from what I have read.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Tony Blade
U19 Cricketer
Read in the Dawn today that he would play.. so I dunno...Arumpnoo said:
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
India in Asia.Scaly piscine said:
So far on past performances, Flintoff can't bat in Asia.
No.
Yes but even if I were to agree with you (which I don't) and believe Flintoff would make every team including Idea on batting alone, he's probably the only allrounder in world cricket that would be able to make a team on batting and bowling alone (that is, if their other talent wasn't used).Mecnun said:
So apparently, by that definition, Flintoff is the only allrounder in world cricket. That's why I believe that this criteria to determine whether one is an allrounder is extremely flawed.
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Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Inzy's comments after the fact, not the "Oh I didn't know the rule" but the "Bad taste in my mouth", along with Moin Kahn's are an absolute disgrace. The hypocrisy when one compares it to Sachin's dismissal in 1999 makes it even more shocking.Anil said:exactly! what inzy is claiming is bullcrap...he tried to circumvent a rule of the game, the indians brought this to the umpire's attention by appealing which was exactly the right thing to do and the umpire gave him out....he's just got to live with it and stop whining about it...."spirit of the game" is this vague phrase that has been used to describe a lot of things over the years and most of it is ridiculous....bowling a beamer is against the spirit of the game, so is deliberately slowing down the game and so is racially abusing an opponent....this doesn't come in the same ballpark....
Tony Blade
U19 Cricketer
Its not like everyone kept quiet after the Sachin incident either, just like theres been a bit of hue and cry over this one. Lets just get past it, it will probably be forgotten soon enough.