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*Official* India in Pakistan Thread

aussiefan

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
SirBloody Idiot said:
You'd be surprised on the ratings of the AFL Wizard Cup. The thing that shits me with Fox Footy is that hardly any games are shown live. We get the channel to watch live footy, not the same game played yesterday.

With digital out, I would love a new channel. But Foxtel would only show highlights from current games, not older games methinks.

What we really need is a wrestling channel.

Which reminds me...WrestleMania XX Tommorrow!
we are here to discuss CRICKET and not AFL or WWF :!(
 
The thing to note is that India went into the match with 4 specialist bowler while Pak had only 2 specialist bowler!!!

This shows the defensive attitude of Pakistanis.I think India will go in the next match with huge psychological advatage, Pak on the other hand will be under pressure.One thing is for sure,Pak need to strengthen their bowling lineup if they are serious about avoiding embaressment while facing Indian batsmen.Unfortunately they don't have a decent bowler in reserve.
 

vdmd

Cricket Spectator
Please don't spam the forum advertising your site. You've done so once which is allowed but no more than once.

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V Reddy

International Debutant
furious_ged said:
That ball from Naved-Ul-Hasan that got Sehwag out is simply one of the best I have ever seen. Brilliant.
Check out Kaif's catch in the penultimate over of this match. Just superb and at a very crucial time which tilted it in India's favour. 10 were needed of 8 at that time with Moin and Malik in.
 

FRAZ

International Captain
vishnureddy said:
Check out Kaif's catch in the penultimate over of this match. Just superb and at a very crucial time which tilted it in India's favour. 10 were needed of 8 at that time with Moin and Malik in.
Yeah that was the turning point.
 

Craig

World Traveller
desai said:
i think foxtel should add an extra sport channel to cover more cricket and soccer... for eg pay tv network supersport in south africa are currently showing ind Vs pak, sf VS nz, ws VS eng, zim VS ban [surprisingly] plus live domestic matches.... that's unbelivable.....
That would be nice. More football (soccer) and cricket I'm happy :D :D

On other matters, this wicket was so flat and the pace off the out field, I would back Neil to hopefully get at least one four. Beat the out field and you get a four.

If this match is a signal on what's to come, then this is going to be one helluva Test series let alone the ODIs..

Maybe now people will see Mohammad Sami is not good enough.
 

CDAK

U19 Debutant
Wonderful match!!!. Just like newspapers saying,"it's the victory of Cricket" rather than any team's. Pakistan never seemed to be losing except for the first 15 overs of their bowling and batting. A big pat to Inzi& Co. for the superb chase . Terrific come back by their bowlers that restricted India reaching a historic 400. But the same bowlers awarded the game to India by giving away 38 extra runs and 5 extra overs.
Ultimately, what Indians might have noticed is the drastic change of Pakistan's image in India.I couldn't believe my eyes seeing pak and Ind fans waving their big flags side by side and that too in Pakistan.There were no sign of hostility towards Indians and they enjoyed Indian batting too with an English style sporting spirit.
I hope the good will tour will continue in the same way..:)
 
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Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
After watching the highlights I will say one thing... WOW!

Kaif's catch may of been the turning point, but I think Razzaq's wicket was even more crucial. If he was there I'm sure Pakistan would of got home, his six was amazing but he played a silly shot and Zaheer got him with the slower ball cleaning him up.

The way Dravid got out on 99 was poor. I felt so sorry for him because he deserved that hundred. :( Good to see Akhtar be a good sport though, that was great.

I loved watching that game and that atmosphere was SUPERB. It's amazing, earlier today I was watching the NZ/SA test match and then switched on a few hours later to the Ind/Pak highlights, the comparison in the atmosphere is amazing.

I can't wait till the next game. 8D
 

CDAK

U19 Debutant
Jono said:
Kaif's catch may of been the turning point, but I think Razzaq's wicket was even more crucial. If he was there I'm sure Pakistan would of got home, his six was amazing but he played a silly shot and Zaheer got him with the slower ball cleaning him up.
U r right , razaq's wicket was also crucial, so is with Inzi,Youhanna.But remember with 12 runs needed from 10 balls, no need of all those big names. Malik is a hard hitter with a few hundreds under his belt. Moin is also a good hitter. So there're no need of Razaq at that time,but Malik alone woild have changed the match.Tha's y Saurav said Malik's wicket was the turning pont.

The way Dravid got out on 99 was poor. I felt so sorry for him because he deserved that hundred. :( Good to see Akhtar be a good sport though, that was great.
have u noticed the 3 players(Sehwag,Saurav,Dravid) who were playing nicely got out in strange fashion?It could be observed from their sudden reaction.( Dravid never had shown such stuff early):D :D
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Vroomfondel said:
Btw Bouncer, Excellent Analysis, so I gather it was Pak Vs. Pak and the Indian team was in the crowd? It's really heartening to know that Pakistan doesn't need an opposition to create a tight match.
To be fair to Bouncer he posted it in a separate thread strictly as viewing the match from the Pakistani view, but it was moved into this thread to try and keep everything together.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
ajaagarkarajaaja said:
The thing to note is that India went into the match with 4 specialist bowler while Pak had only 2 specialist bowler!!!

This shows the defensive attitude of Pakistanis.
No, it shows that they have the likes of Razzaq and Malik who are one-day all-rounders - what is negative in picking players who can do more than one thing?


ajaagarkarajaaja said:
Unfortunately they don't have a decent bowler in reserve.
Saqlain and Shabbir didn't play did they?

Either of them would be welcomed into that current Indian attack IMO.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
CDAK said:
Ultimately, what Indians might have noticed is the drastic change of Pakistan's image in India.I couldn't believe my eyes seeing pak and Ind fans waving their big flags side by side and that too in Pakistan.There were no sign of hostility towards Indians and they enjoyed Indian batting too with an English style sporting spirit.

I hope the good will tour will continues in the same way..:)
Excellent point, and lets hope it continues in that vein.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Kaif saved something like 15 runs on the field, to say nothing of his brilliant catching. He shouldn't be dropped, and I'm not sure Yuvraj should either.
If they can't play in the XI, at least Nehra or Zaheer can be substituted out and one of these two can be brought in. Neither contributed much as batsmen. Of course, Kaif is useful in building partnerships and is a good runner between wickets- he should be running for Ganguly next time.

I want Powar to get a look in, but at who's expense? I'm guessing Laxman comes in for Badani, and then what? I don't want Kartik dropped, so who else goes?
Like police forces in jokes, Karthik got to work AFTER the damage was done. I would play Powar in his place, or in place of the sixth batsman.

All in all, the indians looked far more professional in the field, evfen bloody Ganguly (apart from the one time where he didn't back up) which is a new thing for us.
The direct hits were missed and there were a few overthrows. They didn't stop the 1's and 2's. This may not have backfired in this match, but it always will against Australia/NZ/SA.

Ganguly fielding well? Just once.

Inzamam surprised everyone with his running. Definitely the Indians, probably the Pakistanis too, perhaps even himself. I'm very very glad I was able to watch that innings.
Best innings he has ever played. Good mix of staying at the crease, hitting six-balls for six, running hard- real hard. That will improve his conversion rate.

Arjun, IMO there was nothing atrocious about the Indian bowling. Zaheer was coming back from injury, and he's improving, he's still nowhere close to top pace yet. Nehra, Balaji were really good, fielding and commitment to the cause were exemplary.
Both sides bowled very badly. Zaheer and Balaji bowled well, but Nehra was not impressive. I would say Zaheer bowled well, since he took 3 wickets- that is enough. If the fielding was even average, the final score would be 300/x. The best part was that the line and length were good for a long time in the 1'st 15.

A few things to note -- The only crib I have against Ganguly is that he doesn't experiment quickly enough, and he doesn't vary things enough. I'm sure he'll work on that. I mean, Kartik should have gone for the leg-stump line 2 overs before he did. And those two overs cost India bigtime.
Karthik and Ganguly don't get along well. Everyone hails him as a good spinner, but he goes for a lot of runs and barely picks wickets, but only under Ganguly. Under Azhar, Dravid and the Railways captains, he has been a much better and more effective bowler. He attacks a lot and that's not good when the field is defensive.

Also, the part-timers with the exception of Sehwag really sucked. I think Powar would make a very big difference in the team -- although it's moot as to who he'll replace.
Play Sehwag as a regular bowler, that will provide a better all-rounder than all the Agarkars and Bangars available. Plus, he's good enough to enter the team for his batting alone.
 

Swervy

International Captain
Arjun said:
If they can't play in the XI, at least Nehra or Zaheer can be substituted out and one of these two can be brought in. Neither contributed much as batsmen. Of course, Kaif is useful in building partnerships and is a good runner between wickets- he should be running for Ganguly next time.

I thought substitutions could only be made if a player is injured...surely your suggestion is against the spirit of the game
 

jada

Cricket Spectator
Like police forces in jokes, Karthik got to work AFTER the damage was done. I would play Powar in his place, or in place of the sixth batsman.
I would like to see Powar given a shot but who would you drop? A 6th batsmen? Most of the people i spoke to yesterday who watched the match totally disagreed, although i am in favour of it. I would not replace any of the pace men unless injured. That leaves only Kirthik who bowled reasonably well towards the end of his 10 overs. You are right in the sense that i have seen him play better under different captains.


Play Sehwag as a regular bowler, that will provide a better all-rounder than all the Agarkars and Bangars available. Plus, he's good enough to enter the team for his batting alone.
I totally agree here Sehwag is under used and should be used more often. I have noticed that his bowling is generally of a lower trajectory, thus being harder to put away for six/four. He could be the fifth bowler. His batting at times is simply awesome!
 

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