***Official*** India in New Zealand 2020

[vcs]

Yeah, NZ deserved to lose for their mindless panic and choking so hard. It was worse in some ways than Bangladesh in the WT20 2016. The blind slogging and stupid running. WTF were those shots from Taylor and Mitchell in the last over.

 

[Senile Sentry]

Tie is a perfectly acceptable result ina t20 bilateral series. It simply demonstrates that on the day both teams were equal.

India and NZ both played some brilliant and shambolic cricket. NZ just timed their bad cricket in the very end thus colouring the view that they somehow deserved to lose.

Super overs dilute a XI vs XI game into 1 vs 3. It might be a necessary evil in world cups for the sheer reason to get a unique victor (than shared) but it cannot be the standard.

 

[honestbharani]

I like the uniqueness that a T20 game will ALWAYS have a winner though. It differentiates it from other formats. Not that I disagree with anything you posted here,SS, but I think T20 needs that added attraction and that is what the super over gives it.

 

[h_hurricane]

NZ would be gutted with this loss but have themselves to blame. Taylor not finishing one of these 2 matches was unexpected.

On a side note, is there a single opposition player whom Kohli hasn't abused ? The list of expletives in his dictionary is truly incredible.

 

[Senile Sentry]

I like the uniqueness that a T20 game will ALWAYS have a winner though. It differentiates it from other formats. Not that I disagree with anything you posted here,SS, but I think T20 needs that added attraction and that is what the super over gives it.

Fair enough. I actually think T20s are for franchise cricket and not for Internationals. I just feel that in a format where there is so little room for error and disproportionate reward for luck factor, super over amplifies it to absurd proportions. Might as well use coin toss to determine a winner.

 

[Pup Clarke]

Also Ross Taylor is pretty poor in this format with the bat, doesn't bowl and is a below-average outfielder.Why not find another player (Chapman/Phillips come to mind) and back them?

 

[vcs]

NZ would be gutted with this loss but have themselves to blame. Taylor not finishing one of these 2 matches was unexpected.

On a side note, is there a single opposition player whom Kohli hasn't abused ? The list of expletives in his dictionary is truly incredible.

Who did he abuse and what did he say?

 

[h_hurricane]

Who did he abuse and what did he say?

From minor lip movements, I could recognize him sending off departing batsmen with words like m* and b*. Saw him do that twice or thrice but don't remember the batsmen. Not the first time though and definitely not the last time.

 

[sunilz]

What should have been a 2-2 result is now 4-0 . Luck is very important in life.

 

[ankitj]

That plus the last over

NZ panicked. Shardul was pretty average. Bowled 2 good knuckle balls but rest were regular shite. Saini in penultimate over was much much better.

Pandey among Indians deserved MoM, or Bumrah for going at under run a ball.

 

[Kirkut]

I smell match fixing here with back to back super overs sniff... sniff.....

 

[slippy888]

New Zealand fans just need to admit the truth that therec team is shattered mentally and emotionally after world cup final.

 

[nzfan]

How are we going to go to the world cup with this side? Are we better for experience or worse? Just wondering if we did have Lockie and Boult we'd have a better chance against India. Are we going to be able to compete in test cricket after these loses? Hope this doesn't turn the season into a very disappointing one.Still plenty of cricket to come yet.

 

[jcas0167]

Getting better. They kept India to a relatively low total. They were missing Kane and Guptill was hampered. Seifert stepped up. Maybe he should be the number 4? Munro played really well.

I think Ferguson and Boult will presumably come back in. Neesham should come in too.

 

[TheBrand]

Had a yarn with John Wright at work randomly the other day. We both agreed that NZ selectors are too conservative but also that he hopes that people start treating T20 as a separate sport and give it the credit it deserves as it evolves more and more. He reckons it'll get to the stage where the matchup are so important there won't be such a thing as a batting order.

He also told me that the way NZC handled Mitch McClenaghan wanting to play franchise cricket was really poor and his experience would be invaluable.

 

[Athlai]

I’m not all that worried really. India are an exceptionally good T20 outfit and we’ve always just been decent in the format.

The super over heartbreaks suck and there’s massive clear areas of improvement here for us to work on but at the same time I’m quite pleased with the teams we’ve started picking and the lack of Seth ****ing Rance

 

[vandem]

... but at the same time I’m quite pleased with the teams we’ve started picking and the lack of Seth ****ing Rance

Agree. Kuggs / Tickner / Jamieson have white ball potential and need game time. If you need an experienced back up to the top 3 seamers due to injury or rotation then Bennett has more variety and can bowl a heavier ball than Rance.

 

[Flem274*]

seth rances 2 minutes of game time seems a strange area to get so salty over when we've got a skipper who has been a passenger in all formats since the 2015 wc

i get it with southee. he's obviously got the respect of the team and he's always the first to go over and chat to a struggling bowler, but man he's a shadow of his former self. i guess when you debut early you fade early.

i don't know what to do about the choking with the bat except that there's no defending it and you can't pretend everything is fine. choking is cancer. the bowlers i can deal with sucking since they're noobs, but the batting has been ridiculous since we landed in australia.

 

[jcas0167]

This would be fun.

Here's my solution: We play a single day domestic super over tournament on Waitangi Day every year.

We can either let association have a turn to host it, or pick one venue (possibly Whangarei for the proximity to Waitangi) to host it every year.

The day would work with every team playing a super over against every other team, (15 super overs) then semi-finals and a final.
https://www.cricket.geek.nz/2020/02/solving-super-over-situation.html?m=1

 

[vandem]

... when we've got a skipper who has been a passenger in all formats since the 2015 wc....

ODI yes. Test no. T20I perhaps, but were there better options?

Thanks to Cricinfo statsguru:

test before 2015 WC 39 matches 136 wickets @ 30.6
test after 2015 WC 32 matches 134 wickets @ 29.0

ODI to end of 2015 WC 94 matches 131 wickets @ 31.0 ER 5.27
ODI after 2015 WC 46 matches 55 wickets @ 41.9 ER 5.77

T20I before 2015 WC 37 matches 45 wickets @ 25.2 ER 8.5
T20I after 2015 WC 33 matches 33 wickets @ 28.8 ER 8.2