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***Official*** India in New Zealand 2013/14

Daemon

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This is bull****. Shami would've smashed 3 sixes and Anderson would've bowled two wides down leg.
 

Arjun

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Where are the singles? Where were the singles at the top? The top order played out too many dots. Seriously, send Rohit Sharma lower down the order, now that he's had enough batting practice at the top; his poor strike rate costs the team matches, as much as some duffer bowlers in this side. Rahane's case is a sad one, with nearly every game played under pressure, either of the team losing, or of him losing his place, so maybe he can get a longer rope, much like Rohit or Jadeja. The Indian team needs to go shopping for a new opener. They can try Rahane, Dhoni or Bhuvneshwar as openers for this series, and get back Vijay at the top later on. At least this needs a little reworking, and not a major change of personnel.
 

OverratedSanity

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Both sharmas are problem areas tbh. Ishant just needs to gagfd, Rohit just too slow... If he consumes this many balls he's atleast got to go on and get a decent score. Hate to criticise him when he actually had a great 2013, but it was a problem in the SA ODIs as well
 

Hurricane

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Dhoni's concession speech was interesting. An expert analysis but inwardly focussed. I havn't given too much thought as to whether Duckworth lewis gave us an unfair advantage like he claims.
 

hendrix

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I don't know about that. We've chased down in similar fashion overseas too, not just in India
The difference is that NZ's bowlers, even the relatively crappy ones, are not really that crappy.
Moreover, NZ's fielding, even when it's relatively poor, is not really that poor.
Finally, NZ's field placements and captaincy of late, even when it's poor, is not really that poor.

Not to take away credit from Dhoni and Kohli, who are amazing batsmen. But the weak link in the bowling here was Corey Anderson, who was going at 10 an over. Most teams have a weak link to go after when they're facing a stiff chase, but when it's a chase in which they need 12 an over, a run rate of 10 is not that bad.

There wasn't much they could do.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
Dhoni's concession speech was interesting. An expert analysis but inwardly focussed. I havn't given too much thought as to whether Duckworth lewis gave us an unfair advantage like he claims.
there's no ****ing way DL gave us an unfair advantage. 340-350 was on the cards.
 

Jono

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The difference is that NZ's bowlers, even the relatively crappy ones, are not really that crappy.
Moreover, NZ's fielding, even when it's relatively poor, is not really that poor.
Finally, NZ's field placements and captaincy of late, even when it's poor, is not really that poor.

Not to take away credit from Dhoni and Kohli, who are amazing batsmen. But the weak link in the bowling here was Corey Anderson, who was going at 10 an over. Most teams have a weak link to go after when they're facing a stiff chase, but when it's a chase in which they need 12 an over, a run rate of 10 is not that bad.

There wasn't much they could do.
We've done it to Malinga tbf.

I think people are overplaying this. India's problem is the bowling, not the batting. They fell just short of chasing an extraordinarily large total.
 

Immenso

International Vice-Captain
I must admit, I thought Macca would surely lose faith in Corey tonight and bowl Williamson in that vital 3rd-to-last over. That's what I was internally yelling at Baz inside my mind anyway ........
 

OverratedSanity

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The difference is that NZ's bowlers, even the relatively crappy ones, are not really that crappy.
Moreover, NZ's fielding, even when it's relatively poor, is not really that poor.
Finally, NZ's field placements and captaincy of late, even when it's poor, is not really that poor.

Not to take away credit from Dhoni and Kohli, who are amazing batsmen. But the weak link in the bowling here was Corey Anderson, who was going at 10 an over. Most teams have a weak link to go after when they're facing a stiff chase, but when it's a chase in which they need 12 an over, a run rate of 10 is not that bad.

There wasn't much they could do.
Well I disagree. Australia's bowling and fielding in ODIs isn't that crappy either. It's just a reliance on the two best ODI players in the world that's hurting us. The others didn't contribute as much as they shouldve and unfortunately Kohli got out to pies in both matches. Plenty we can do better.

Imo if the openers fire, we become ridiculously hard to beat, and especially I'm chases it sets up the game for us with Kohli and Dhoni to then finish it off. With these slow starts, we're expecting Kohli and Dhoni to produce miracles every game which just won't happen.
 

KiWiNiNjA

International Coach
there's no ****ing way DL gave us an unfair advantage. 340-350 was on the cards.
Yeah, nothing unfair.

NZ were laying a foundation for a launch to 320+
With 16.4 overs left, rain comes, and now you have all these wickets in hand and only 8.2 overs to set a total.
If they knew there was only going to be 42 overs per side, they would have "launched" earlier.
Therefore they needed to be compensated for the rain.
 

OverratedSanity

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We've done it to Malinga tbf.

I think people are overplaying this. India's problem is the bowling, not the batting. They fell just short of chasing an extraordinarily large total.
Nah... Shami and Bhuvi did OK. Sharma obviously needs to gagf but that won't happen so nothing we can do. Problem in these two matches and the two in SA has been the openers . If they get us off to decent starts, we win pretty much every game, especially chases. It's most definitely been our strength for years. It's just gone missing in the last few games
 
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Blocky

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Dhoni's concession speech was interesting. An expert analysis but inwardly focussed. I havn't given too much thought as to whether Duckworth lewis gave us an unfair advantage like he claims.
At the toss, he selected to field first knowing that there was rain in the air and that the Duckworth Lewis system more often than not favoured the team batting second. He even hinted at that during the post toss interview.

New Zealand received what amounted to be about .8 of a run for the 33 runs they batted on the basis that they had two wickets in the shed which would have contributed to a higher scoring rate if the match was shorter, something that you could say was validated considering the acceleration New Zealand were able to add the moment the match restarted.

Ultimately in DWL situations, I have no sympathy for the chasing team, they generally get the better of the situation and know for sure what they need to get.
 

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