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***Official*** India in New Zealand 2013/14

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Ugh, couldn't be a worse time for a rain break. We are going to get ****ed by DWL you can just feel it.
 

thierry henry

International Coach
His ability to increase the scoring and his intent to do so has changed.

He now sees his role as setting a launch pad for the power hitters down the order, rather than being one of them.
Yeah but lately that seems to mean he gets to 30(48). Should be 40(48). He's just not doing that job very well.

Also, a player of his ability should be able to play to the situation and actually exploit his talents. One of the game's gun 6-hitters seems to have psyched himself out of being able to successfully execute big shots to some extent.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
Yeah but lately that seems to mean he gets to 30(48). Should be 40(48). He's just not doing that job very well.

Also, a player of his ability should be able to play to the situation and actually exploit his talents. One of the game's gun 6-hitters seems to have psyched himself out of being able to successfully execute big shots to some extent.
If he could do both he'd be up there with Kohli and ABdV. It's pretty difficult IMO.
 

Blocky

Banned
Exactly! "I like this Trent Boult - he reminds me of Andrew Penn."
Penn was extremely unlucky to not get a test, irregardless of his nightmare performances in ODI cricket. Having faced him and talked to many other cricketers that were at first class level during the late nineties and early thousands, he was easily the hardest to face bowler in New Zealand until arguably Shane Bond started his rise. He was brisk, could move it on a string, never really let up and would quite comfortably bowl twelve to fifteen over spells without the pace dropping.

One of the lost generation to NZ cricket of that era in my view.
 

thierry henry

International Coach
If he could do both he'd be up there with Kohli and ABdV. It's pretty difficult IMO.
He's not as good as them but he's better than this. Prior to his change of approach Taylor was the kind of ODI batsman who scored at a decent clip from the start while also averaging around 40 i.e. basically just a good ODI batsman.

I don't see what's to be gained by becoming a bloke who scores at a S/R of 65. The guy has been good enough to score at a good rate and not get out for years.
 

Dan

Hall of Fame Member
Actually rating this discussion they're having on Sky at the moment with Jeremy Coney. Pretty interesting.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
ugh, it will really suck if we lose overs given:

a) how crap India is at the death (Ishant still has 5 overs to bowl, ffs)

b) how small the boundaries are

c) how our whole game plan revolves around McCullum, Anderson and Ronchi hitting out at the end.
 

_Ed_

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Penn was extremely unlucky to not get a test, irregardless of his nightmare performances in ODI cricket. Having faced him and talked to many other cricketers that were at first class level during the late nineties and early thousands, he was easily the hardest to face bowler in New Zealand until arguably Shane Bond started his rise. He was brisk, could move it on a string, never really let up and would quite comfortably bowl twelve to fifteen over spells without the pace dropping.

One of the lost generation to NZ cricket of that era in my view.
Whoops, not a good example, then! Haha. Should have picked one of the numerous other international failures we've had.

Must admit I saw very little of Penn - went to maybe three one-day domestic games he played in, and he was poor in all of them. So I assumed from that and his dismal ODI efforts that he wasn't much good. His stats do look pretty exceptional, to be fair! Shame it didn't work out for him internationally.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Any discussion with Jeremy Coney is interesting. It's a crime that he doesn't have the top job in the Sky Cricket commentary team.
 
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Daemon

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ugh, it will really suck if we lose overs given:

a) how crap India is at the death (Ishant still has 5 overs to bowl, ffs)

b) how small the boundaries are

c) how our whole game plan revolves around McCullum, Anderson and Ronchi hitting out at the end.
It's gonna suck for India if Ishant doesn't get to finish his spell at the death as well. Counting on the NZ batsmen to hit him out of selection.
 

Shri

Mr. Glass
ugh, it will really suck if we lose overs given:

a) how crap India is at the death (Ishant still has 5 overs to bowl, ffs)

b) how small the boundaries are

c) how our whole game plan revolves around McCullum, Anderson and Ronchi hitting out at the end.
16 overs remain. Shami has 6, Kumar has 5, Ash has 3, Jadeja has 3. Dhoni doesn't even have to bowl Ishant.
 
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Blocky

Banned
Whoops, not a good example, then! Haha. Should have picked one of the numerous other international failures we've had.

Must admit I saw very little of Penn - went to maybe three one-day domestic games he played in, and he was poor in all of them. So I assumed from that and his dismal ODI efforts that he wasn't much good. His stats do look pretty exceptional, to be fair! Shame it didn't work out for him internationally.
He was superb, probably a 140kph bowler on his day, formed a pretty good bowling unit there for CD for quite a while.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
I thought he was pursuing a thesbian lifestyle in the UK?

(i know it's a p)
Yeah because doing odd-job commentary work for Radio Sport pays peanuts. I imagine he could be persuaded to take up the gig full-time if he was picking up Ian Smith's pay packet.
 

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