***Official*** India in New Zealand 2013/14

[Blocky]

Then complain on cricinfo's comments section. Not here

Same comments taking place here though, yes you've praised the McCullum innings but seriously, read the last 15 pages here, a lot of the Indian posts focused on how you perceived the Indian performance, rather than how you perceived the Watling and McCullum partnership.

 

[hendrix]

I can't be the only one who finds it annoying that what should be an unquestionably great moment is being marred in this thread by completely a completely spurious argument, which at this stage is useful and relevant to about five people in the universe, tbh.

thing is, he can call it greater than Laxman's innings if he wants to. There's possibly even reasonable justification.

But to rubbish other people's opinions because they're Indian and apparently have a God complex is just such horrible posting.

 

[Blocky]

when on earth is india just gonna find a decent fast bowler, even one that does a serviceable job. You can have all the best young batsmen in the world in the side and it's not gonna make a difference without at least an average attack. I mean it can't be that hard to find someone better than e.g. Sharma. He averages 38 after 50+ matches for christ sake, that's awful.

Heres one related to the Indian seam attack

India deserves to lose with Dhobi as captain.No other captain has had such a disastrous run and still in the team

And heres another regarding Dhoni and his captaincy.

 

[Daemon]

Same comments taking place here though, yes you've praised the McCullum innings but seriously, read the last 15 pages here, a lot of the Indian posts focused on how you perceived the Indian performance, rather than how you perceived the Watling and McCullum partnership.

About 800 of your 857 posts have been about New Zealand. What's your point? We can't comment about our own players and team now?

Absolutely ****ing ridiculous.

 

[Daemon]

Heres one related to the Indian seam attack



And heres another regarding Dhoni and his captaincy.

Noted 100% Indian and diehard Indian fan Ruckus everyone

 

[Blocky]

We can agree to disagree, we don't want you getting all sensitive like you were over the Wagner and Guptill issues...

But ultimately, I don't see any reason this isn't in the same league and in the conversation for one of the greatest innings of all time considering the factors, Laxman would no doubt feel the same if you asked him to think about this innings in comparison to his.

 

[hendrix]

Heres one related to the Indian seam attack



And heres another regarding Dhoni and his captaincy.

They have a bad seam attack and horrible team selections under Dhoni.

Even if it weren't true, you're allowed to criticise your own team and players.

 

[Zinzan]

Let's see.

Later in the order after all top order batsman are dismissed? Check.
Much further behind in the game at the time the partnership started? Check.
Batting for a longer amount of time, in conditions that during the new ball were much harder to bat in? Check.
Having to bat against a much fresher bowling attack that had only delivered 37.2 overs on the trot, versus the Australian's who had bowled them out, enforced the follow on and already bowled 66 overs in the second innings before the partnership started? Check.

So far, we have a much more dire situation, who were further behind in the game, had to bat much longer just to ensure there would be a second Indian innings, who were batting against a bowling attack with hardly any recent mileage in the legs in conditions that offered a lot more for the pace bowlers than the Indian conditions offered the Australian bowling attack....

But yes, I can see why we can't possibly see McCullum's inning as in the same league, if not greater.

The 'Indian Gods' comment was poor, but some reasonable points made to counter the fact the Aussie's were straight-out superior bowlers, albeit not in their ideal conditions.

It's close, but Laxman's effort probably edges McCullum overall. Not by as much as some are making out though.

 

[Spark]

thing is, he can call it greater than Laxman's innings if he wants to. There's possibly even reasonable justification.

But to rubbish other people's opinions because they're Indian and apparently have a God complex is just such horrible posting.

It is a bit, and they absolutely have the right to complain about their team's performance when it doesn't look good - that's what makes them supporters ffs.

This, as far as I have seen, has been a high-quality tour thread thus far, and this has been one of the most special days' of Test cricket in recent history - especially for NZ. But this "discussion" has been just dismal.

Blocky, you are of course entitled to your opinion but you are not entitled to ramrod your opinion down everyone else's throat in this way, make snide insinuations about the objectivity of other posters - many of whom have no reason to be pro-Indian, being Australian, West Indian and what have you - and generally wreck the thread's atmosphere.

 

[Days of Grace]

Jesus, who gives a **** which innings is better. Just appreciate both of them and celebrate them. Hell, even a guy like myself with my own innings ratings system can do that.

 

[Prince EWS]

Same comments taking place here though, yes you've praised the McCullum innings but seriously, read the last 15 pages here, a lot of the Indian posts focused on how you perceived the Indian performance, rather than how you perceived the Watling and McCullum partnership.

There's nothing wrong with that though; there are two teams playing. It was a great innings and people have said that but it's not a holy cow; people are allowed to discuss other things.

Just imagine if your lovechild Neil Wagner had been dropped from a Test match and what was left of New Zealand's attack proceeded to concede a mammoth second innings total while an opposition player played one of the best innings of all time. Don't tell me you wouldn't be posting about New Zealand, Wagner or the selectors in any of your posts. Come on now.

 

[hendrix]

Jesus, who gives a **** which innings is better. Just appreciate both of them and celebrate them. Hell, even a guy like myself with my own innings ratings system can do that.

Would genuinely be interested in the rating through your system once the game is done and dusted.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

McCullum this, Laxman that.

**** it. Neither come close to the Greatest Rearguard Innings ever.

This, my friends, is the Greatest Rearguard Innings ever:

 

[Slifer]

Noted biased Indian fans Prince EWS and Slifer shut up good and proper by this.

Dude I'm not an Indian fan I'm from the West Indies

 

[OverratedSanity]

Heres one related to the Indian seam attack



And heres another regarding Dhoni and his captaincy.

1)Sharma IS a horrible bowler
2)Dhoni IS a terrible captain
3)You whine about Guptill 95% of the time here. Rest of the 5% you whine about the evil biased indian fans
4)Ruckus isn't even indian is he?
5) Just shut your hole and enjoy this great comeback

 

[Prince EWS]

Dude I'm not an Indian fan I'm from the West Indies

Yeah I was being sarcastic. I'm not Indian either; that's the point.

 

[hendrix]

Dude I'm not an Indian fan I'm from the West Indies

…that was the joke...

 

[Jono]

For any Kiwi fans panicking, fear not. Whenever I attend an away test match for India (Melbourne, Sydney, Lord's, Trent Bridge) the result is always the same - India lose. So most likely scenario is that India collapse tomorrow and then Fulton scores a double ton in the 3rd innings imo.

Knew me witnessing an Indian win overseas was a bridge too far. The trend continues. Now to see if India manage to lose it!

Great stuff from the Kiwis, thoroughly brilliant. I actually cannot believe what I have witnessed live. Obviously gutting from an Indian fan point of view, but from a cricket fan point of view its just ridiculously amazing. McCullum has just easily played the greatest innings I've seen live.

India, well... just abysmal but what ya gonna do? When you have no bowlers who can perform on tracks with nothing in it this was always on. Like I've been saying on here for ages, tracks with no sideways movement are the best way to just stop India completely. Bowlers just have nothing.

 

[Blocky]

The 'Indian Gods' comment was poor, but some reasonable points made to counter the fact the Aussie bowlers were straight-out superior bowlers, albeit not in their ideal conditions.

It's close, but Laxman's effort probably edges McCullum overall. Not by as much as some are making out though.

You've even seen me call McWarne the greatest duo for bowling in cricket, which some would attempt to argue with - but we're not even taking into account

1. McCullum isn't noted as a "I can bat time" batsman
2. His known injuries and problems during this innings
3. How much more likely 600+ scores are in India versus New Zealand

The Indian God comment talks more about Cricinfo style rebuttal rather than this forum, I'll admit to that - but ultimately, the same conversations that took place in this forum about the Kallis and Sangakarra being better than Tendulkar/Dravid being laughed about and dismissed seem to be prevalent through this concept that the McCullum innings can't be compared to Laxman's.

Go look at the domestic averages of batsmen in India versus the same in NZ as well, the average scores in tests from India vs NZ. The often quoted stat that an average of 40 in England/NZ is worth 50 anywhere else, etc.

There are MANY factors in favour of this innings in comparison to Laxman, but as I said above, we can agree to disagree... as we did about Wagner, as we did about Guptill.

 

[hendrix]

stfu