SJS
Hall of Fame Member
The Indian team has to decide how good a batsman they think Karthik is. He is being played as a specialist batsman. A specialist batsman at number seven? That must be a first of sorts.
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**Official** India in Bangladesh
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ramkumar_gr
U19 Vice-Captain
I think Kathik coming at 7 has more to do with the other Dinesh - ie Mongia.
Have no clue why he's in - perhaps there really is no other all rounder in the
country even worth blooding, or perhaps this series is not the one to do that.
In any case the finisher role is key and it appears that the management has
more faith in Karthik. Dhoni & Dravid are too valuable at the moment to push low,
Yuvi too valuable at the top.
On the fielding positions too:
Karthik really proving to be flexible here (and too flexible for his own good), perhaps why Dhoni dons the gloves is that Karthik is the better fielder in the outfield.
Dinesh Mongia is the weak link here, need to fix the all rounder, preferably with a seamer. All will then fall into place.
Have no clue why he's in - perhaps there really is no other all rounder in the
country even worth blooding, or perhaps this series is not the one to do that.
In any case the finisher role is key and it appears that the management has
more faith in Karthik. Dhoni & Dravid are too valuable at the moment to push low,
Yuvi too valuable at the top.
On the fielding positions too:
Karthik really proving to be flexible here (and too flexible for his own good), perhaps why Dhoni dons the gloves is that Karthik is the better fielder in the outfield.
Dinesh Mongia is the weak link here, need to fix the all rounder, preferably with a seamer. All will then fall into place.
exactly what % of your feelings usually come true?Hopefully rain doesn't disturb the game today. I really truly hate rain.
Sehwag to destroy the Bangladeshis today. I can feel it.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
In modern ODI cricket, it's hardly a first. Yuvraj and Kaif occupied the 6 and 7 for quite a while during the Dravid-keeping era, while Australia used a range of players just after the 2003 World Cup including Bevan, Clarke and Hussey before they eventually gave the gig to Watson. In fact, during the times when Watson is injured (fairly regularly), Australia in recent times have usually had a specialist batsman at #7 - usually Hussey, recently Brad Hodge and Cameron White (who did indeed play as a specialist batsman regardless of what anyone will tell you) doing so. Sri Lanka played Russel Arnold there for the entirety of the World Cup while Aftab Ahmed and Mohammad Ashraful have even found themselves down there for Bangladesh when Rahim gets promoted to #3 as a steadying player. The West Indies have used players like Lendl Simmons to bat as low as 8 as well.
So no, not a first at all.
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
Oh none of them. Thats exactly the point.
WE have someone like Mongia who is making the side ONLY because he can also bowl. We are not going to take him as pure batsman. But when he does play alongwith someone like Kaarthik who is playing as a pure batsman, Mongia bats higher.
So what does it say about how the selectors rate Kaarthik's batting?
If they are going to play Kaarthick as pure batsman they might as well treat him like one and send him above Mongia at least.
Maybe today will be different but if so that wopuld be because Kaarthik got runs yesterday and Mongia didnt. It still doesnt tell me how they rated Kaarthik's batting versus Mongia's before the first game.
Clearly they thought Mongia was a better batsman.
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
He has gained pounds (though drops dont show in the ocean) but whats worse his batting has declined.
One felt Zaheer should have come earlier as he struggled with his wild swishes.
With Dhoni battin g at three and Yuvraj out early, India badly needed someone to play the big shots from that strong position in which they found themselves but there was no one.
This is where the pros and cons of Dhoni at number three need to be weighed.
BTW, Sehwag should get a hiding for throwing away his wicket to ordinary deliveries in both games. With Uthappa waiting in the wings and Saurav and Sachin at home, he is not doing himself any favours. THe man seems to have decided to take his 'I-dont-care-what-you-say" attitude to the limit of rebellion.
And to think that he may have led the side if Dravid was unfit.
