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*Official* India in Australia Thread

NikhilN

International Regular
cbreban_MZ_RPFC said:
Is it just me or Chopra really *****es you off? He is too defensive in my opinion.
every team needs a defensive player that makes sure wickets dont fall
 

Rich2001

International Captain
cbreban_MZ_RPFC said:
Is it just me or Chopra really *****es you off? He is too defensive in my opinion.
I think one of the commentary team just hit the nail on the head here, he doesn't have enough strokes. He is a great batsman for knuckling down and digging in for the long hual and will get you through the first hour or so when the ball is doing things... but after that when he needs less defence and has to attack more he is left very open and will normally lose his wicket as seen before through the series. He can get to 30's, 40's and the 50's but he just doesn't seem able to go on with it and score a big one.
 

NikhilN

International Regular
cbreban_MZ_RPFC said:
The way its going for the aussies I can see the next wicket: Lee bowls Sehwag and the bails dont fall off:O :rolleyes:
that happened to pakistan too in the npower test series this year
 

mustang

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
I'm sick and tired of Lee, why doesn't he bowl like the 2nd fastest bowler in the world. Look at Shoaib Akhtar he doesn't bother himself on where to bowl unlike Lee who's busy bowling on the off stump etc. Why doesn't he simply bowl the brains out of a batsman. If he has difficulty getting Chopra out then what about other openers like Smith, Gayle etc! this is disgraceful. This also tells us how big of a star McGrath was - never ever could these have scored 100 for no loss had MCGrath bin there...Dizzy whom Tugga named the best bowler in the world is a disgrace to the game, the guy is so busy bowling on the off stump...why doesn't he bowl straight at batsmans body like Akhtar and Sami do!
 

Rich2001

International Captain
cbreban_MZ_RPFC said:
The way its going for the aussies I can see the next wicket: Lee bowls Sehwag and the bails dont fall off:O :rolleyes:
LOL :lol: - Looks to jsut be one of those days when the luck of the world is going against you rather than with you.

Trouble is you can't ever write the Australians off, they will drop 5 in the field, have a shocker and then still come running back in and take 5/25 in no time :)
 

MZ_RPFC

Cricket Spectator
I agree they should be bowling on off stump. Not outside it as Chopra has showed he is just going to leave anything there. Gillespie seems to be the main one thats doing this. Lee isnt really trying to bowl fast anymore. Dont know Why.
 

Rich2001

International Captain
mustang said:
I'm sick and tired of Lee, why doesn't he bowl like the 2nd fastest bowler in the world. Look at Shoaib Akhtar he doesn't bother himself on where to bowl unlike Lee who's busy bowling on the off stump etc. Why doesn't he simply bowl the brains out of a batsman. If he has difficulty getting Chopra out then what about other openers like Smith, Gayle etc! this is disgraceful. This also tells us how big of a star McGrath was - never ever could these have scored 100 for no loss had MCGrath bin there...Dizzy whom Tugga named the best bowler in the world is a disgrace to the game, the guy is so busy bowling on the off stump...why doesn't he bowl straight at batsmans body like Akhtar and Sami do!
I heard the reason at the MCG was he felt he was the lead bowler and he was required just to bowl a line and lenght all day and allow the others to attack more.

To be fair his opening spell this morning was up and around the 147's consistantly which isn't that slow.
 

mustang

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Lee bowls at 145 avg speed, which makes all the more frustrating, look at Akhtar he never looks at the pitch, he never sets out any plans on hwo to bowl a batsman out - all Akhtar ever does is bowl dead fast pace on the batsman's body!

Well its not like Oz is gonna lose, I'm sure the guys can draw the game but thru out the series the bowlers have disappointed big time. Lets keep in mind, Lee and Dizzy aren't your any other bowlers - they're suppose to be amongst the very best in the world! Its high time they bowled to hurt the batsman rather than planning how to bowl a batsman out. phew I need some fresh air, will be back in 30 mintues and if a wkt doesn't fall then we're doomed for a draw which is absolutely disgusting!!!!!!
 

bennyr

U19 12th Man
Geoff Lawson (on the ABC) has just said that McGrath could be bowling for NSW mid January - not relevant to the discussion, but many will be interested.
 

krkode

State Captain
mustang said:
Lee bowls at 145 avg speed, which makes all the more frustrating, look at Akhtar he never looks at the pitch, he never sets out any plans on hwo to bowl a batsman out - all Akhtar ever does is bowl dead fast pace on the batsman's body!

Which is why Akhtar isn't really that great. Strategy will take you places brute force simply cannot.

What makes you think Akhtar-esque bowling will get these batsmen out? They sound pretty solid to me.

And you sound rather elitist.:rolleyes:
 

mustang

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Let us stop being ignorant, very rarely does any side reach 100 for no lose when Akhtar is bowling, look at Akhtar's stats they're amazing. Have you read what Mark Richardson has to say about Akhtar on bbc cricket????
 

Eclipse

International Debutant
Well at least the Indian fan's cant complain about biased umpiring and Australian batsman having all the good luck.

So far Chopra has been cought behind twice not given out cought off a noball and droped all off Brett Lee.
 

krkode

State Captain
mustang said:
Let us stop being ignorant, very rarely does any side reach 100 for no lose when Akhtar is bowling, look at Akhtar's stats they're amazing. Have you read what Mark Richardson has to say about Akhtar on bbc cricket????
Richardson is an excellent bat but he's not the God of cricketing judgement.

I'm not quite sure of the stats, but Akhtar against a solid opening side wouldn't be as successful as he was against NZ, I think. India isn't very solid, I admit, but they're doing well now which is what matters.

Personally, I don't think Akhtar could do diddly-squat to the Aussie lineup with the kind of attitude you're describing..
 

krkode

State Captain
Eclipse said:
Well at least the Indian fan's cant complain about biased umpiring and Australian batsman having all the good luck.

So far Chopra has been cought behind twice not given out cought off a noball and droped all off Brett Lee.
That's natural. No Indian fan will complain about a decision in their favor. Aussies will complain, though. (see previous pages).

The moment it goes against India and for Australia, Indians will start complaining and Aussies won't. Like I said, this is as natural as the solar *and* the lunar eclipse .. :P
 

Craig

World Traveller
How Katich managed to drop Chopra is beyond me. Blind Freddy would of caught it (no reference to Andrew Flintoff).
 

MZ_RPFC

Cricket Spectator
Though those 2 caught behind decisions could cost Australia the series! Then all of the sudden India will be labled the best team in the world. Which in my opinion isnt right!
 

mustang

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Cmon man Akhtar has done this against Oz in an ODI game on Australian shore, he's matured a lot since then. Did you see his bowling figures against the SA test in Pakistan, Bangladesh test, NZ ODI and test three months ago...I like his kindaa attitude, he bowls to hurt the batsman rather than planning how to get XYZ opener out.


Perhaps I've gone a lil overboard but the first day of an test is always crucial, and I doubt India will repeat the mistake they made at MCG (that is a batting collapse)...
 

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