***Official*** India in Australia ODIs 2016

[Spark]

Well India have ****ed that one up hard.

 

[mr_mister]

Jadeja a true no rounder

 

[indiaholic]

30 below par.

 

[Contra]

This really is a pretty alarming trend from India. They have such a good batting line up and they almost invariably are set up for absolutely massive totals, only to bottle them.

Except we don't really have such a good batting line up, our line up is talented but largely one dimensional. Rahane is not a #4, and Dhoni also needs to bat higher than he use to give his playstyle in recent times. So we basically have no guy who can smash towards the end.

 

[Gnske]

About 70-80 below par for the Indian bowlers really

 

[longranger]

The bigger issue is that this does not bode well for the World T20. George Bailey, who is nowhere near the standards of the Indian top 5, is a useful prototype of an LO batsmen these days.

I'd love to have a Russell or Faulkner in the team for those important crunch runs.

 

[cnerd123]

Im going to repeat this - we need to drop Kohli down to 5. He is the best equipped of all our batsmen to finish an innings off. Rahane can do just as good (or slightly worse) job at 3, and we can MSD/someone else at 4. Raina at 6, and then we just need another hitter at 7 and Jaddu at 8 and we're set.

 

[Burgey]

Im going to repeat this - we need to drop Kohli down to 5. He is the best equipped of all our batsmen to finish an innings off. Rahane can do just as good (or slightly worse) job at 3, and we can MSD/someone else at 4. Raina at 6, and then we just need another hitter at 7 and Jaddu at 8 and we're set.

So basically rejig the entire line up...

 

[OverratedSanity]

And our openers and number three have been good enough to be set and have scored a half century by the 30th over mark.. Should start to up the pace at that point.

See the other side of the coin is that if Rohit/Rahane had started to go for the big shots around say over 32-33 and they'd gotten out in the process, that leaves us with Manish Pandey and Dhoni in with close to 20 overs to go. Which is a terrible situation, frankly. With no hitters down the order, asking the top order batsmen to start slogging before over 35 poses a big risk of a total collapse. We're basically asking the top 4 to both lay the platform and finish things off. It's just too much.

 

[longranger]

Someone get Raina back. He's India's best available option (sad but true)

 

[Burgey]

You've got a beast of an opener and two of the best finishers of all time in your side. It's odd they don't dinish off first innings when they've been so good at paving chases on the past

 

[longranger]

Im going to repeat this - we need to drop Kohli down to 5. He is the best equipped of all our batsmen to finish an innings off. Rahane can do just as good (or slightly worse) job at 3, and we can MSD/someone else at 4. Raina at 6, and then we just need another hitter at 7 and Jaddu at 8 and we're set.

Kohli doesn't move from #3 in ODIs and #4 in Tests. India doesn't make their stars move.

 

[longranger]

Anyone else feel like Rohit scoring 124 is 'Aww, he could have got so many more'? How many other batsmen in the world can you say that about ?

 

[cnerd123]

MSD still has the big hitter mode in him; he just needs more time to get settled in.

Openers
Rahane
MSD/Pandey/Samson (if no MSD at 2019 WC)
Kohli
Raina
Gurkeerat/Pandya/Suryakumar/someone to hit and bowl a bit
Jaddu

IMO.

 

[indiaholic]

See the other side of the coin is that if Rohit/Rahane had started to go for the big shots around say over 32-33 and they'd gotten out in the process, that leaves us with Manish Pandey and Dhoni in with close to 20 overs to go. Which is a terrible situation, frankly. With no hitters down the order, asking the top order batsmen to start slogging before over 35 poses a big risk of a total collapse. We're basically asking the top 4 to both lay the platform and finish things off. It's just too much.

Not advocating slogging. Instead of targeting 10rpo in the last 10 overs, try going at 8 for the last 20. Given the skill set of our batsmen, I think that is the most feasible approach.

 

[cnerd123]

Kohli doesn't move from #3 in ODIs and #4 in Tests. India doesn't make their stars move.

Kohli should make the move himself for the team's best interests.

 

[Burner]

BCCI dropped Raina, the one guy India desperately needed in these circumstances. Those trolls...

 

[social]

Purely a mindset thing as the Indian batsmen are good enough to play any shot

As an example, Rohit was well over 100 when he received 2 balls right in the slot from Boland and he simply bunted them to mid-off

Lynn would've pumped them 30 rows back or perished trying

Somebody needs to be able to convince them that 309 a/o is a better score than 308/8 in a 50 over match

 

[OverratedSanity]

Not advocating slogging. Instead of targeting 10rpo in the last 10 overs, try going at 8 for the last 20. Given the skill set of our batsmen, I think that is the most feasible approach.

Sustaining that rate of scoring for 20 overs is far more difficult than throwing the bat for 10. Not a feasible approach with our batting lineup.

 

[Daemon]

Peeps forgetting the innings Rahane played right before this one. He's not great where he is and is a poor finisher but 4 is still workable.

We have too much cake though for sure. I'll be very surprised if Gurkeerat doesn't play the next game.