***Official*** India in Australia 2014-5

[Zinzan]

Broad and Anderson are pretty decent bowlers too and regularly had our top order in all sorts (and they are probably peerless at home). And yep, Harris and Johnson were brilliant, and they exposed a massive flaw in Root's front foot technique which I am yet to be convinced he's rectified. But I've gone on about this plenty before.

We'll pick this up again in the next 12-18 months I'm sure

 

[Spark]

Massive sliding-doors innings for Burns

A tidy 50, books a ticket to the Carribean (and perhaps beyond to the Ashes given the current state of Windies cricket)

On the other hand, a failure will see him condemned to joining (the very infamous) fellow Queenslander Scott Muller as a two-Test wonder

Would like him to score a run in the V first.

 

[Spark]

We'll pick this up again in the next 12-18 months I'm sure

Hey, if Root does great in the series to follow then all power to him, that doesn't change the situation now - which is that, IMO, Smith has made far more hard runs against quality attacks than Root has

 

[Zinzan]

In what world is being **** against an exceptional attack = being good against a very good attack?

In doesn't equal it at all. Didn't say that, I was questioning the comparison between Smith vs Root records against each-others side. Just happened to say Johnson's bowling performance in that particular series was about the most devastating bowling I've ever witnessed.

 

[Spark]

W/e. Going around in circles now.

 

[Cabinet96]

Biggest issue for Root is most of his struggles have come in similar circumstances of wickets not being slow. Makes you think the blips in his record are much more the result of an underlying flaw than simply a bad run of form for a couple of tests or something random.

 

[Blocky]

In what world is being **** against an exceptional attack = being good against a very good attack?

The same world where people try to justify Tendulkar ahead of statistically superior batsmen because "Tendulkar didn't make as many of his runs against Bangladesh" - etc. The attack that Smith is facing this series has been utterly horrible, as seen by the scoreline and the fact that no bowler from their side has taken a bagfull, and a number of batsman in the Aussie team are scoring runs for fun.

 

[Spark]

Biggest issue for Root is most of his struggles have come in similar circumstances of wickets not being slow. Makes you think the blips in his record are much more the result of an underlying flaw than simply a bad run of form for a couple of tests or something random.

I definitely remember thinking even during the NZ series before the Ashes that "the kid's got a great temperament, but I'll be disappointed if we let him score heavily with that front foot technique". Reckon it took about five overs for those suspicions to be confirmed, and Harris didn't even play that Test. Just did not get out of the crease at all. We basically bowled half-volleys at him for an hour and most of his runs came down to 3rd man IIRC.

 

[Spark]

The same world where people try to justify Tendulkar ahead of statistically superior batsmen because "Tendulkar didn't make as many of his runs against Bangladesh" - etc.

thank you for a contribution that precisely 0 people asked for and has 0 relevance to the topic at hand

 

[Cabinet96]

I definitely remember thinking even during the NZ series before the Ashes that "the kid's got a great temperament, but I'll be disappointed if we let him score heavily with that front foot technique". Reckon it took about five overs for those suspicions to be confirmed, and Harris didn't even play that Test. Just did not get out of the crease at all.

Yeah I remember posting numerous times I wasn't anywhere near comfortable with him opening in Australia for those reasons.

 

[Blocky]

thank you for a contribution that precisely 0 people asked for and has 0 relevance to the topic at hand

Thank you for quoting me out of context.

Stop attempting to state that Smith scoring runs against this attack from India is equal to Root scoring runs against the Johnson lead Australia attack last Ashes series. It's not a credible point.

 

[Spark]

Thank you for quoting me out of context.

Stop attempting to state that Smith scoring runs against this attack from India is equal to Root scoring runs against the Johnson lead Australia attack last Ashes series. It's not a credible point.

yeah look you aren't even on the same planet as the discussion that's actually taking place so i'm not even going to bother

 

[Midwinter]

Top effort by darsh to be looking for a quick single to help out young Joe. Bastard.

This

 

[Spark]

Yeah I remember posting numerous times I wasn't anywhere near comfortable with him opening in Australia for those reasons.

He's so much like Cook in that respect - his technique and raw grit are such that you definitely can't begrudge the runs they score and they're both clearly both bloody good bats, but you can't help but be a little disappointed if you let them go big because you just know, if you stick to a certain plan then you can both tie them up and put their wicket under severe pressure. I have a lot more faith in Root fixing his problem than Cook though, because he's (a) younger, (b) not captain, (c) seems to have better hand-eye and a wider array of shots, so he's more capable of putting the bowler under pressure if they get it wrong. The kid is going to score absolute buckets in a few years, but he's not quite there yet IMO despite his numbers - as opposed to Smith/Williamson/Kohli/Rahane who I reckon are more or less the complete package already.

EDIT: Maybe not Rahane given the nutcase way he starts, but he's arguably the best of the four discounting that. All the shots, all the gears, impeccable technique.

 

[dermo]

Thank you for quoting me out of context.

Stop attempting to state that Smith scoring runs against this attack from India is equal to Root scoring runs against the Johnson lead Australia attack last Ashes series. It's not a credible point.

when has anyone said this?

the argument is that smith as scored more hard runs than root but no one is pointing to this series as an example of that, spark was referring to his runs in SA

and root didnt even score any runs over here so i've got no idea what your on about

 

[Spark]

when has anyone said this?

the argument is that smith as scored more hard runs than root but no one is pointing to this series as an example of that, spark was referring to his runs in SA

and root didnt even score any runs over here so i've got no idea what your on about

SA and vs england really but yes

 

[Spark]

Yay, a run in front of square

 

[Spark]

No need to go nuts in this session IMO. Score quickly, but we want to be going laaaaaaaaarge here.

 

[Swingpanzee]

600-650 minimum

 

[dermo]

No need to go nuts in this session IMO. Score quickly, but we want to be going laaaaaaaaarge here.

don't mind the big shots to force the field back though