*Official* Fifth Test at the SCG

[Spikey]

SHUT THE **** UP ABOUT THE REFERRAL SYSTEM MARK TAYLOR z

 

[Spikey]

and yeah why doesn't the stump mic get used?

 

[Spark]

I think what's happened there is that Bell heard a noise but didn't feel an edge. In that case it can be a bit confusing whether you've hit it or not.

 

[TumTum]

Agree with the part that it's for removing the howler, not for close decisions.

 

[JBH001]

If so, that's ridiculous. I was under the obviously mistaken impression that if either side called for a review, it was taken out of the on-field umpire's hands. If not, this sort of thing undermines the whole process surely?

Yeah, I'm not sure what the rules around the UDRS process are. Where no evidence can be found confirming or denying the decision it reverts to the on-field umpires call. I had always thought that meant that the umpire was required to stick by his original decision. But it seems that this is not the case as Dar obviously had the latitude to reverse his original decision. It's also odd because Dar originally gave him out and I always thought that only the opposing captain had the wherewithal to withdraw an incorrect decision (by withdrawing an appeal) but I am not too clued up on the umpiring regulations to comment on that. In this case, the umpire should (IMO) probably be required to stick with his original decision.

It is an indication, however, as I said earlier, about some of the negative impacts of the UDRS system on even such top flight umpires as Aleem Dar.

 

[hazsa19]

To be fairly clearly out and be given not out under DRS is incredibly lucky IMO.

No more so than batsmen being given wrong decisions for the last 150 years without the DRS, even if it seemed obvious to some.

And even in Birbane I think it was, there was a supposedly clear edge that wasn't given or shown on DRS. Then snicko shows an edge...

 

[Spark]

No more so than batsmen being given wrong decisions for the last 150 years without the DRS, even if it seemed obvious to some.

And even in Birbane I think it was, there was a supposedly clear edge that wasn't given or shown on DRS. Then snicko shows an edge...

Well the difference there was that was given not out.

Look, if it had been given not out originally and Clarke called for a review and it stood, we'd be miffed but it'd be acceptable. But when there's a clear noise, the bat is a long way from the body and the ball is so close to the edge, in the absence of any conclusive evidence how can the decision then be overturned?

 

[Burgey]

If Ian Bell scores a century against us, I will reassess my opinion that the mid-80s was the nadir of Australian cricket.

 

[M0rphin3]

What a sadistic **** Strauss. Declare already you punk.

 

[NZ Guy]

Agree with the part that it's for removing the howler, not for close decisions.

Well if he didn't hit it then it kind of is a howler

 

[benchmark00]

Good point by Taylor re: Watson shouldn't be over bowled.

With Watson's bowling improving, it becomes a massive shout for him to move down the order for the good of the team, and him.

 

[hazsa19]

Well there you go. Some suicidal running gives the opportunity for a pretty straightforward run-out. Perhaps Belly feels guilty lol

Guess that might be forgotten when bemoaning the controversy that hit Australia on day 3.

 

[JBH001]

What a sadistic **** Strauss. Declare already you punk.

Haha, nah. I reckon Strauss wants only the win or the draw. He wants to shut the door as the saying goes.

Edit/ Lol at Bell flirting with his chance of making his first ashes hundred and of having Burgey make a terrible realisation.

 

[Burgey]

Well if he didn't hit it then it kind of is a howler

No it isn't. Not always.

 

[Spark]

Smithy drops it?! What?!

 

[robelinda]

If Ian Bell scores a century against us, I will reassess my opinion that the mid-80s was the nadir of Australian cricket.

Indeed. So much for our 'dream' bowling lineup who won in SA 2 years ago, they have woeful since then. Not a good combination. Cant see these guys troubling any batting lineup above us in the rankings, in any country. Mahela Jayawardena will make 600* later in the year.

 

[Spark]

I'm surprised Smith hasn't caught that. Had it - then didn't.

 

[hazsa19]

Well the difference there was that was given not out.

Look, if it had been given not out originally and Clarke called for a review and it stood, we'd be miffed but it'd be acceptable. But when there's a clear noise, the bat is a long way from the body and the ball is so close to the edge, in the absence of any conclusive evidence how can the decision then be overturned?

You are right. It is ridiculous.

I just don't like the idea that this innings has been lucky for England. Already Bell has given two chances, one was pretty straightforward, the other you would like to think he would take it.

And you can't bemoan much if a spinner oversteps the line.

 

[NZ Guy]

No it isn't. Not always.

How so? would you say that if there was a tiny edge on an lbw? He hit it. Not clearly, but he still hit it. Like the no ball, Beer was over by a little but he was still over

 

[vic_orthdox]

What a sadistic **** Strauss. Declare already you punk.

No way, think the English will love Bell making a ton against us. Really illustrates the difference between the two sides, and how the English are all over us; even in comparison to 2009.