**Official** English Football Season 2023/24

[Socerer 01]

He has credit in the bank for last season, they overachieved coming 4th so early in the project. There's no way he is the next to go with their upcoming run of fixtures.

I think there's alot of parallels to Hughes at City, he's the guy navigating their early investment but there will come a time where the owners start expecting silverware and they'll look around Europe for an accomplished manager who can take that next step.

In many respects I think the premature 4th place finish may end up being what hurts him the most, feels like they're running before they have learnt to walk. By that I mean they haven't really consolidated themselves as a top 6 side and now they're in Champions League and have a starting XI that most expect to be top 5 again. It's his first dabble in Europe too and he's landed in a tough group, although I think they'll get through it. Anything beyond the first knock out round would be a huge pass mark.

Where I predict they'll come unstuck is not having the quality in the squad to rotate and having to prioritize one competition over the other. If he tries pushing for all silverware available the extra mins in the legs will end up biting them towards the back end of the season. We saw it last season with Arsenal where they threw away the domestic cups to try keep pace with City and in the end the squad lost a few key playersver and they ended up with nothing. With how Newcastle started they are going to be chasing the top 2-3 for most the season

In any case glad they got the win over City in the cup - happy for pretty much anyone to win it now that isn't Man United.

eh he‘s way better than Hughes as a manager. Newcastle owners dont seem to be like PSG ones, they have slowly loosened the purse strings and have so far shown more understanding of football to a layman

Howe has also improved many players at his disposal beyond what they previously showed which is always a sign of a good manager. Conte was **** at Spurs, Mourinho hasn’t really done too much at Roma and Tuchel has not improved Bayern compared to what they were before. only Ancelotti has been good recently when talking about primarily trophy managers, the rage seems to be project managers and ones who are all about philosophy first which then leads to trophies and Howe is the best English version of it, having an English manager at an English club has its own perks

 

[Skipper Pup]

eh he‘s way better than Hughes as a manager. Newcastle owners dont seem to be like PSG ones, they have slowly loosened the purse strings and have so far shown more understanding of football to a layman

Howe has also improved many players at his disposal beyond what they previously showed which is always a sign of a good manager. Conte was **** at Spurs, Mourinho hasn’t really done too much at Roma and Tuchel has not improved Bayern compared to what they were before. only Ancelotti has been good recently when talking about primarily trophy managers, the rage seems to be project managers and ones who are all about philosophy first which then leads to trophies and Howe is the best English version of it, having an English manager at an English club has its own perks

Based on what? Hughes had a fairly decent couple seasons at Blackburn before he got the City job.

As far as the spending goes, since the takeover they've spent 130, 185 and 153 million respectively in the last 3 seasons. Relative to others that is responsible spending but its not as if that comes without expectation either. They have been moving like a big club.

Agree there's not much else out there in terms of managers that would be suitable replacements right now. I think they'd be looking more at a Luis Enrique, Rudi Garcia or Roberto De Zerbi type. Not that it really matters at this point, I don't think Howe's job is under any sort of threat.

 

[Himannv]

Man Utd looking much better lately.

Even though they lost to Bayern they could easily have won thay game.

I think Amrabat reads the game quite well and Hannibal's workrate is a nice addition to the midfield mix plus Mount is back. That helps Casemiro out a bit more and adds more balance to the side so there are positive signs.

I don't think anything can be read into the results though - the real CP game is on the weekend and Bayern were not a side playing well.

 

[Chin Music]

Yeah the 4-3 scoreline flattered United. Its two wins, but one against a side likely to go down by a mere goal and the other against a side who could not be bothered last night.

Its all quite dire this from Napoli, assume he will end up at Chelsea in January

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Why would he go there? Surely clubs like Newcastle, Arsenal and Man United for 3 are better bets. The only reason I wouldn't say Liverpool or City is because of their huge depth.

 

[Molehill]

Why would he go there? Surely clubs like Newcastle, Arsenal and Man United for 3 are better bets. The only reason I wouldn't say Liverpool or City is because of their huge depth.

Because they'll probably offer him an 8 year contract which no one else would.

 

[Uppercut]

I think Howe is a really good manager. His Bournemouth team only got relegated because of a massive injury crisis that nobody noticed because the players he’d been keeping them up with were complete nobodies.

 

[Skipper Pup]

I think Howe is a really good manager. His Bournemouth team only got relegated because of a massive injury crisis that nobody noticed because the players he’d been keeping them up with were complete nobodies.

Would be good to see him manage England one day. I think he's comfortably the best home grown option.

 

[Molehill]

Would be good to see him manage England one day. I think he's comfortably the best home grown option.

I think the other option would be Potter. Probably best to ignore the poisoned chalice at Chelsea and focus on his efforts at Brighton.

 

[Socerer 01]

Based on what? Hughes had a fairly decent couple seasons at Blackburn before he got the City job.

As far as the spending goes, since the takeover they've spent 130, 185 and 153 million respectively in the last 3 seasons. Relative to others that is responsible spending but its not as if that comes without expectation either. They have been moving like a big club.

Agree there's not much else out there in terms of managers that would be suitable replacements right now. I think they'd be looking more at a Luis Enrique, Rudi Garcia or Roberto De Zerbi type. Not that it really matters at this point, I don't think Howe's job is under any sort of threat.

i did say based on the way he has improved players - look at Burn, Targett, Joelinton, Gordon, Almiron who are unrecognisable from what they were once

Rudi Garcia is about to get sacked from Napoli in the future, he is utter ****. de Zerbi for all the hype so far has only won 1 trophy at top level which is the Ukrainian Super Cup. its what I said earlier that Howe is the English version of these fancy coaches that get everyone drooling for some reason

 

[sledger]

Almiron has always been good tbf. Since he joined Newcastle anyway.

 

[Molehill]

Almiron has always been good tbf. Since he joined Newcastle anyway.

And Burn was good at Brighton whilst Gordon was always going to be decent. I've not seen much difference out of Targett whilst Joelinton has been helped by changing positions.

I'm not knocking Howe, just not sure these are the best examples.

 

[MW1304]

Almiron has always been good tbf. Since he joined Newcastle anyway.

He's always been industrious, but I wouldn't say he's always been good. Scrapped away with very little end product under Bruce (Jesus Christ remember those heady days), but Howe massively unlocked his end product and decision making.

I think the culture under Howe is the biggest change. You've gone from Bruce giving his underperforming team days off every other week and moaning to the press about how unfair it all is, to Howe's Simeone-inspired relentless drive for success and level-headed demeanour. And obviously some Saudi blood money has helped. But they selected him themselves and can clearly see his qualities, they're not firing him any time soon.

It's absolutely true that countless players have transformed under him. Joelinton is the most obvious, but Almiron, Schar, Murphy and Longstaff look twice as good under Howe and it's no coincidence. I've said it before but I've never seen a more stark contrast between two managers than Bruce and Howe.

Non-insane fans aren't expecting anything crazy this season, noone expects to get out of the Champions League group and retention of European football would be a great result. Though I get we're known for our vocal minority of those who think we're the biggest and best club in the country.

 

[Uppercut]

Yeah I agree that he’s improved players but it’s more that the team as a whole plays with such organised intensity. Just looks like a well coached and highly motivated team.

 

[Skipper Pup]

i did say based on the way he has improved players - look at Burn, Targett, Joelinton, Gordon, Almiron who are unrecognisable from what they were once

Rudi Garcia is about to get sacked from Napoli in the future, he is utter ****. de Zerbi for all the hype so far has only won 1 trophy at top level which is the Ukrainian Super Cup. its what I said earlier that Howe is the English version of these fancy coaches that get everyone drooling for some reason

Joelinton and Almiron I'll agree, he's done an exceptional job with those two. I disagree on the others.

Dan Burn was very good for Brighton, I'm not sure he's come on in leaps and bounds under Howe, this season he's had a few shaky moments and there are plenty who think he should be on the bench. Gordon was signed off the back of some great form at Everton hence the price tag, yet to nail down a starting spot either. Targett was a regular consistent performer at Villa under Dean Smith, he was shipped off because Gerrard preferred Digne, he's not unrecognisable from the player he was at Villa.

I have a lot of time for Howe, already said what he did last season was a great achievement. I'm just not convinced he's the guy to take Newcastle to the next level of competing for trophies both domestically and in Europe. I have no issue if you think he is that guy.

He absolutely deserves the chance this season and I want to see him do well but it won't shock me if he's not there in 12 months time.

 

[Uppercut]

I don't have a problem with upgrading a good coach to a great one, but I don't see any obviously better candidates who would be falling over themselves to come to Newcastle. Most of the "proven" managers feel like they're yesterday's men. Someone like De Zerbi could make sense, but if Brighton have a better season than Newcastle it wouldn't feel like much of a step up for him.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Not unhappy with the Villa result today.

 

[Socerer 01]

Luton winning vs Everton lol

 

[sledger]

Everton make me really happy.

 

[Socerer 01]

this ref is a joke

 

[Uppercut]

The Jones one was borderline and I ****ing hate VAR showing the ref a still photo of a tackle instead of the full incident. You learn nothing about how dangerous it is from a photo.

Jota was an obvious red though.