*Official* English Football Season 2015-16

[Ikki]

In other words, STFU scaly

The 65 free kick goals is enough of an argument. It's quite nuts really.

 

[duffer]

Yeah. Not verified but if that's true it's completely ridiculous.

 

[Cabinet96]

Orbinho works for Opta, so yeah it's true. We have highest in the league away though funnily, which shows a couple things.

 

[duffer]

Orbinho works for Opta, so yeah it's true. We have highest in the league away though funnily, which shows a couple things.

Heh, just wait until they blame the home fans for it.

 

[sledger]

Tbf the majority of Arsenal fans these days do tend to be pretty dire.

 

[cpr]

The 65 free kick goals is enough of an argument. It's quite nuts really.

Evidence enough when were agreeing on it!

S'pose Gerrard wasn't that bad either (actually I think he's a pretty high conversion rate too IIRC)

 

[sledger]

Del Piero and Ronaldinho names that are probably worth throwing in the hat re: goals/attempts from freekicks ratio discussions, especially the former.

 

[Furball]

I'm not saying scaly is wrong here because the reason I guessed Zola was because I can remember that statement being parroted in the late 90s/early 00s, I just flat out don't believe that any player had a 1 in 3 conversion rate from free kicks.

 

[Furball]

Del Piero and Ronaldinho names that are probably worth throwing in the hat re: goals/attempts from freekicks ratio discussions, especially the former.

Yeah del Piero went through a phase around about 1995/96 where he was amazing.

Juninho Pernambacano is probably the best I've ever seen. Not just the number of goals he scored but what he could actually do to a football when he struck it was amazing.

 

[Ikki]

Evidence enough when were agreeing on it!

S'pose Gerrard wasn't that bad either (actually I think he's a pretty high conversion rate too IIRC)

Stevie was pretty good but not in that class. It must be top 5 all-time or something. 65 goals is more goals than Iniesta has scored in his club career and not far off his total with internationals. If Charlie Adam was worth 10m just for his corners, wonder what Fergie thought Becks was worth.

He's probably one of the best strikers of a ball (if not outright best) ever. Real Madrid won a La Liga title with basically Beckham crossing it onto Van Nistelrooy's foot.

 

[vcs]

Payet is pretty good among the current lot.

 

[Cabinet96]

Looked it up yesterday and Payet has scored two league free kicks in his last seven league seasons. It's not particularly rare for a player to hit 3 or 4 top bins in the space of a few weeks and for people to point out how much better their conversion rate is compared to Ronaldo and call them the best free kick taker in the world. At the start of the season it was Willian, which led to this ridiculous article - Chelsea's Willian is 38 times better at free-kicks than the rest of the Champions League COMBINED - Mirror Online - some time recently it was Pjanic, 15 years ago it was Zola, now it's Payet. Finishing is pretty fickle at the best of times, and it only gets worse from dead ball situations where the average set piece taker probably only has 15-20 shots a season. Unless you're comparing careers over a decade then it's a pretty bad way to judge free kick takers and you're better off just judging subjectively.

 

[Furball]

The other thing about free kicks is that they're really hard to compare objectively. No two free kicks from the same spot are going to be the same because the make up of the defensive wall and the positioning of the goalkeeper are going to be different every kick. Even if it's two opposition players who get a free kick from literally the same spot on the park in the same game.

 

[vcs]

Looked it up yesterday and Payet has scored two league free kicks in his last seven league seasons. It's not particularly rare for a player to hit 3 or 4 top bins in the space of a few weeks and for people to point out how much better their conversion rate is compared to Ronaldo and call them the best free kick taker in the world. At the start of the season it was Willian, which led to this ridiculous article - Chelsea's Willian is 38 times better at free-kicks than the rest of the Champions League COMBINED - Mirror Online - some time recently it was Pjanic, 15 years ago it was Zola, now it's Payet. Finishing is pretty fickle at the best of times, and it only gets worse from dead ball situations where the average set piece taker probably only has 15-20 shots a season. Unless you're comparing careers over a decade then it's a pretty bad way to judge free kick takers and you're better off just judging subjectively.

Good point.

 

[Furball]

What is the point of Stoke if they're not being an awkward banana skin?

 

[Uppercut]

Looked it up yesterday and Payet has scored two league free kicks in his last seven league seasons. It's not particularly rare for a player to hit 3 or 4 top bins in the space of a few weeks and for people to point out how much better their conversion rate is compared to Ronaldo and call them the best free kick taker in the world. At the start of the season it was Willian, which led to this ridiculous article - Chelsea's Willian is 38 times better at free-kicks than the rest of the Champions League COMBINED - Mirror Online - some time recently it was Pjanic, 15 years ago it was Zola, now it's Payet. Finishing is pretty fickle at the best of times, and it only gets worse from dead ball situations where the average set piece taker probably only has 15-20 shots a season. Unless you're comparing careers over a decade then it's a pretty bad way to judge free kick takers and you're better off just judging subjectively.

Tbf Payet might not have taken many, definitely not when he was in a team with Hazard. Bale suffering something similar at the moment, I'd have had him down as one of the best around.

 

[Cabinet96]

Tbf Payet might not have taken many, definitely not when he was in a team with Hazard. Bale suffering something similar at the moment, I'd have had him down as one of the best around.

Yeah fair to an extent. Think he's only taken 35 (shots) in that time.

 

[Uppercut]

Spurs turning on the filth. Eriksen, Kane, Dembele, Delle Alli are all incredible.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

So is the Vardy sending off going to be THE moment of the season. Fair play to Spurs, pressure on to win playing after Leicester all the time and they coming up with great performances not just winning.

 

[Cabinet96]

Not sure I'll ever be able to get my head around Tottenham losing 5-1 to Dortmund and then Liverpool beating them in the next round. Makes no sense whatsoever from what I've watched this season.