This has got to be a straw man by now. Can't possibly be anyone still claiming this that isn't so stupid they don't count.You forget many people won't watch football outside England so at present he is an unproven player in supposedly the best league in the world.
Nah mate, didn't you see after 5 games they were one of the best performing sides in the league? Stuff your performance models which have always made them out to be ****e.It's what happens when you average two shots on target a game.
Relegation beckons.
Maybe not, but conversely it's not as if there weren't relevant people who thought they were turning good based on the table. Going to be much harder to sack Lambert if and when the times comes just because they're lucky four run stretch happened to be the first four games of the season.Don't think you needed a model to tell they were not very good.
Obviously it's not great, but is it not just a natural consequence of mens sports being more popular?
He was very very good for Atletico, especially at the back end of the Champions League where he was straight up amazing. I might have come across with my point wrong, but having watched all of United and Chelsea's games this season except 2 combined, I really think De Gea has had the far better season. That's most likely because he has had a horrible defence in front of him (Courtois has arguably the best) and hence far more to do and far less a calming influence in front him, but it's just my opinion. Overall Courtois is no doubt a better keeper but that wasn't really the point I was trying to make. This season, to me, De Gea has done more. I can be wrong, and you can disagree, that's fine.What has Courtois got to prove? Was immense for Atletico.
How about you **** right off?You forget many people won't watch football outside England so at present he is an unproven player in supposedly the best league in the world.
How about you do one?How about you **** right off?
I'll tell you what, I'll swap sides of the planet with you and we'll see how many 4am kickoff games in Spain you watch every week you pretentious ****. Especially when they usally show one or two games and a highlight show and only on subscription TV. Sheesh.
This thread is a ****ing minefield at the moment. If you dare to have an opinion that differs from the emotionless masses of statistical "geniuses" you get slyly and subtly ridiculed for two pages by 20 different 17 year olds.
I'd agree with that. Hard to judge keepers in a way. But I do get impressed when a keeper who has a really good defence in front of him is still alive to the moment and makes great saves. I tend to think that's where the top keepers differ - not that De Gea isn't a top keeper.He was very very good for Atletico, especially at the back end of the Champions League where he was straight up amazing. I might have come across with my point wrong, but having watched all of United and Chelsea's games this season except 2 combined, I really think De Gea has had the far better season. That's most likely because he has had a horrible defence in front of him (Courtois has arguably the best) and hence far more to do and far less a calming influence in front him, but it's just my opinion. Overall Courtois is no doubt a better keeper but that wasn't really the point I was trying to make. This season, to me, De Gea has done more. I can be wrong, and you can disagree, that's fine.