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*Official* English Football Season 2009-2010
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"Reasonable"?????
How many Champions League titles did Jose win with the biggest spending club in history?
Nil, zip, nada, none, sweet **** all and, what's more, he was canned because his teams played ugly football in the process
I've no love for Liverpool but Rafa is hardly just "reasonable"
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Scaly piscine
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I love the way Clown gets full credit for a trophy won where the side was built on defending (as most Champions League winners have). They got the breaks with getting a lead, then sat on it for the rest of the tie. Clown inherited that. It was the players that got them the trophy. They came back from 3-0 down. Despite that they still needed more luck with penalties because they decided to sit on 3-3, which I still think was a disgrace personally.
All Clown's done is unravel their squad and defensive capability season by season. They could neither attack or defend at the end of his tenure. He spend millions ****ing things up. What a guy.
All Clown's done is unravel their squad and defensive capability season by season. They could neither attack or defend at the end of his tenure. He spend millions ****ing things up. What a guy.
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This isn't true in my experience of Anfield regulars. In any case, there was far from universal agreement on the subject.
I also don't really agree that those most emotionally invested in their club know what's best for it. It's certainly true in the case of Tranmere and Barnes, but Liverpool are an entirely different proposition because many more neutrals watch them play regularly. Most critics were offering up the opinion that Barnes should stay despite probably not having watched a single Tranmere game while he was in charge. It's a charge that can't really be leveled at most of those neutrals who say Benitez had to go; your average footy fan watches a sizeable chunk of Liverpool matches and is perfectly capable of forming an opinion. Personally I'd generally prefer the opinion of a well-informed neutral over that of a well-informed Liverpool fanatic.
It's also worth mentioning that it seems that the players wanted rid of him too.
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sledger
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Yeah, opting for tactics that were adjudged to be the most likely to prevent defeat. Disgraceful.
How many league titles did Rafa win...........
GIMH
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Disagree - IMO you can judge things much better at the game than on TV.
No offence but I'd hazard a guess that I know a lot more Anfield regulars than you too, backing myself on that bit at least
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Haha that's true, I was going to mention that.
I do know a worrying proportion of Anfield regulars, though. Most of them Welsh. They certainly stuck with Benitez much longer than most, but by the end they were nearly all conceding that he wasn't taking the club forward.
I know what you mean regarding being at the game, but there are limits, especially after such a long time in charge. As you well know, I'm primarily interested in results, and he didn't really deliver them.
But none of that really mattered in the end. Once he lost the dressing room the board would have found it extremely difficult to keep him.
I do know a worrying proportion of Anfield regulars, though. Most of them Welsh. They certainly stuck with Benitez much longer than most, but by the end they were nearly all conceding that he wasn't taking the club forward.
I know what you mean regarding being at the game, but there are limits, especially after such a long time in charge. As you well know, I'm primarily interested in results, and he didn't really deliver them.
But none of that really mattered in the end. Once he lost the dressing room the board would have found it extremely difficult to keep him.
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I was quite keen for Barnes to stay at Prenton Park as long as possible.
Scaly piscine
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They'd scored 3 goals in about 10 minutes, Milan were all over the place. Yep... I know lets sit right back and play for penalties.
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Yes, you're right. Turned out to be a terrible decision.
Scaly piscine
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Even an idiot gets lucky sometimes.
They went one better and got lucky twice. In the first instance that Milan didn't score (they weren't particularly threatening if I remember right, but it still doesn't take much) and then when Milan decided to miss most of their penalties.
Scaly piscine
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Would back Dida to save more spot kicks than Dudek personally. When you blaze the first penalty over the cross-bar it sets a bad tone though. Just as if you keep scoring the penalties going first it puts massive pressure on the other side.
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He won 2 with Valencia. In fact, he's only got 1 less top-3 league title than Wenger but with a CL title and a UEFA cup to boot. Benitez is without a doubt one of the best coaches in the world. It's not even debatable IMO. Was he right for Liverpool? In the end, no. He was more than good though and if circumstances off the pitch were better we'd have had a much better shot with him. The guy gave his all and that's what the fans acknowledged and that's what GIMH has picked up on. We knew that, for the most part, he'd not leave a stone unturned and he wanted Liverpool to succeed as much as anybody else. Right now, from my own contact with Liverpool fans, it seems they feel they have few people actually working for the club who are on their side. Dalgish being, probably, the only one. We have two owners we don't want; a newbie in Purslow and a Chelsea fan running the club.
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Scaly piscine
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Yea of course he's one of the best based on a relatively short spell at Valencia when they won the league twice in a country where it's a very distant 2nd to the Champions League. Oh and he won a cup that's a very distant 3rd to the Champions League. Awesome. Those achievements alone make up for being an unbridled ****wit at Liverpool for 5 years and clearly are enough to promote above all those morons who've gone and managed sustained success and actually built up a club over decades. I mean why would you rate any of those peasants above a bearded clown who's had three good seasons with inherited teams and many more bollock laden ones.